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re: John Chavis statement on defensive talent today

Posted on 8/13/15 at 1:44 pm to
Posted by TexasAg13
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Posted on 8/13/15 at 1:44 pm to
So did Chavis change his defensive scheme in 2014? See my stats on the previous page
This post was edited on 8/13/15 at 1:45 pm
Posted by betweenthebara
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Posted on 8/13/15 at 1:44 pm to
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This is clearly a thread for your own board RAd to move to team board




Sailed
Posted by Patton
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Posted on 8/13/15 at 1:44 pm to
Have I been?
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 8/13/15 at 1:45 pm to
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Why do y'all solely base Chavis off of last year


We never had DLinemen with big sack numbers under Chavis, what are you talking about just last year?

Top DLineman in sacks by year:

2009 - DE Rahim Alem 4.5 sacks
2010 - DT Drake Nevis 6 sacks
2011 - DE Sam Montgomery 9 sacks
2012 - DE Sam Montgomery 8 sacks
2013 - DE Jermauria Rasco 4 sacks
2014 - DE Jermaura Rasco 4 sacks
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 8/13/15 at 1:45 pm to
Unless it's Bama, amirite
Posted by cardboardboxer
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Posted on 8/13/15 at 1:46 pm to
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So you think Steele will not be a good DC, but LSU can potentially still finish higher than aTm?



Sure, mostly because I don't know where we will end up. We might beat LSU on the way to a eleven win season or it might be like the Auburn win last year.

The dot you maybe need connected is the concept that LSU can still have a good defense and yet that is enough to get Les fired. The reason is because LSU needs an ELITE defense to overcome the offense. Good isn't good enough.
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 8/13/15 at 1:46 pm to
Just in these threads

Which these threads should be expected. Look at the circumstances for 1 sec and then just use some common sense
Posted by TexasAg13
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Posted on 8/13/15 at 1:46 pm to
So why did LSU rank 1st in the SEC in sacks in 2011?
Posted by cardboardboxer
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Posted on 8/13/15 at 1:47 pm to
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Everyone is so dead set on LSUs offense sucking.


And everyone is dead set that A&M doesn't have enough defensive talent for Chavis. We understand your frustration that people want actual proof on the field before they believe.
This post was edited on 8/13/15 at 1:48 pm
Posted by lsusteve1
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Posted on 8/13/15 at 1:48 pm to
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The reason is because LSU needs an ELITE defense to overcome the offense. Good isn't good enough.


Depends on who we're playing

Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 8/13/15 at 1:48 pm to
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Yea our DL class is about to be pretty insane. I don't wanna count my chickens or anything but damn, O and Steele are frickin closers.



Both have also been fired multiple times for poor coaching performance.

The history books are littered with bad coaches who were awesome recruiters. John Blake was an amazing recruiter, and if you have to look him up that kinda proves my point. He recruited three consecutive top-10 classes despite averaging about three wins a year and essentially won Bob Stoops his only national title yet he couldnt coach for shite.
Posted by Patton
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Posted on 8/13/15 at 1:48 pm to
My common sense tells me that people would get sick of having the same exact arguments with each other for about 8 straight months. I guess my common sense is off.

No skin of my nose I guess. Yall have fun.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 8/13/15 at 1:49 pm to
So make a bold prediction for LSUs offense so I can include it in my annual "I bookmarked these posts" thread

quote:

The dot you maybe need connected is the concept that LSU can still have a good defense and yet that is enough to get Les fired. The reason is because LSU needs an ELITE defense to overcome the offense. Good isn't good enough.


But I thought our O has always sucked and our D was always what kept us alive? Shouldn't, by your flawed logic, Les have been fired years ago?

Posted by memphisplaya
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 8/13/15 at 1:49 pm to
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So why did LSU rank 1st in the SEC in sacks in 2011?


Idk, but it could have something to do with why DT Brockers was drafted in the 1st round.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 8/13/15 at 1:50 pm to
I usually try to take these threads down a different route. Cardboard has already listed out all the standard arguments.

Plus I'm just here for the bookmarks
This post was edited on 8/13/15 at 1:51 pm
Posted by texag7
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Posted on 8/13/15 at 1:50 pm to
Yes..we know you try
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 8/13/15 at 1:51 pm to
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So why did LSU rank 1st in the SEC in sacks in 2011?


LSU had truly elite players at all four dline positions (Mingo, Brockers, Logan, Montgomery) and got significant contributions from LBs (Baker, Minter) and DBs (Mathieu, Brooks).

That's how. LSU was able to do that for two years. Then all those guys left and there was nobody behind them of the same caliber, ESPECIALLY at DT.
Posted by TexasAg13
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Posted on 8/13/15 at 1:51 pm to
Must be dumb luck, because from what I've gather, all Chavis does is teach containment and pass deflections
Posted by goldenbadger08
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Posted on 8/13/15 at 1:51 pm to
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Plus I'm just here for the bookmarks
There's so many..
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 8/13/15 at 1:51 pm to
I've been successful with you and the vast majority of the aTm posters that respond to me

You'll learn one day young fella
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