re: John Bond to release tapes in two weeks....

If the NCAA had evidence that Cam might have known, I think it boils down to the NCAA wanting to have more evidence implicating Auburn before crashing Auburn's party based on something that seemingly had nothing to with Auburn on its face. It was probably not an easy decision to make based on the public's demand for accountability, but I can at least understand the potential reluctance on the NCAA's part to come down on Auburn given the circustances.

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There could be a number of reasons, but here are a few:

1. $$$
2. potential to look like the "bad guy" bringing down the SEC in a sense
3. the potential his school (MSU) could continue to be wrapped up in this thing
4. he didn't hide the evidence, he turned it over to the NCAA and they've still done nothing about it and he's growing restless
5. He's been approached by so many people that want the tapes, it's just taken time to figure out who to allow access to them

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1. I don't know which is worse, a recruit receiving the $$$, or someone trying to make money from it.
2. He already looks like a fool.
3. That's stupid. Anyone with intelligence, who's concerned about getting their feet wet, isn't gonna go traipsing along a river bank.
4. If he's not hiding evidence, he needs to keep his flappin' mouth shut until all the proper channels for investigating the matter have been exhausted.
5. There's only one proper channel, at this time, with authority to investigate and determine whether there is any violation.

I'm not making excuses for anyone. He's just full of shite.

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Maybe I'm wrong... but my impression is that the Auburn fans do not want to admit Cam knew what was going on (or at least the large majority of the Auburn fans)

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You've been trolling around AE too often. Nobody is naive enough to believe that's the case.

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If the NCAA had it do you think they'd let him go rouge and give it to a radio station?

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How could the NCAA stop him from playing his own tapes? The NCAA is not a governmental office

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Auburn's Rich McGlynn has worked with the NCAA very well with this Newton saga, considering his background I have no worries.

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I just don't think any program could survive the scrutiny that Auburn will be under for the time being from not only the NCAA and its investigators, but also from national and local media and its investigators. And let's be honest ... it's not like Auburn is a "sqeaky clean" program to begin with (no SEC program is).

You may be right about the Newton case, though. The NCAA very well may never be able to penalize Auburn for Newton for a variety of reasons. But you can bet that if they can't get Auburn on Newton, the NCAA is not going to like being made to look like an impotent fool in this whole process.

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They reinstated based on the information Auburn provided to them.

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True, but why after the fact did they say they would have ruled the same way. Yes it may have been because of Auburn's investigation. But the prez has said he would have ruled the same. So your argument about they only ruled based on AU's investigation seems flawed

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True, but why after the fact did they say they would have ruled the same way. Yes it may have been because of Auburn's investigation. But the prez has said he would have ruled the same. So your argument about they only ruled based on AU's investigation seeas flawed

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except that the NCAA website says that is how the Reinstatement committee works, you'd have an argument.

I'm sorry, I understand that's how it works, but there is no way I could see Emmert allowing it if he HAD the tapes

Risk of egg on his face would be too high

The NCAA said that Cecil solicited money from MSU>.. they did that at the same time as Cam's reinstatement... So what can the tapes prove... this talk of the NCAA not including all the information they have is a joke... If the info was given to Auburn, the info was given to the NCAA...



Auburn has limited the athletic access to Newton's father, Cecil Newton. Mississippi State disassociated itself from former player Kenny Rogers, who, with Cecil Newton, tried to "actively market" Cam Newton to Mississippi State.


The SEC said:


"The conduct of Cam Newton's father and the involved individual is unacceptable and has no place in the SEC or in intercollegiate athletics," said SEC Commissioner Mike Slive. "The actions taken by Auburn University and Mississippi State University make it clear this behavior will not be tolerated in the SEC."


Here are some details from the NCAA:


When a school discovers an NCAA rules violation has occurred, it must declare the student-athlete ineligible and may request the student-athlete's eligibility be reinstated. Reinstatement decisions are made by the NCAA national office staff and can include conditions such as withholding from competition and repayment of extra benefits. Newton was reinstated without any conditions.

According to facts of the case agreed upon by Auburn University and the NCAA enforcement staff, the student-athlete's father and an owner of a scouting service worked together to actively market the student-athlete as a part of a pay-for-play scenario in return for Newton's commitment to attend college and play football. NCAA rules (Bylaw 12.3.3) do not allow individuals or entities to represent a prospective student-athlete for compensation to a school for an athletic scholarship.

In conjunction with the case, Auburn University has limited the access Newton's father has to the athletics program and Mississippi State has disassociated the involved individual.
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I agree with your point about Emmert. I don't think the NCAA is "hiding" any evidence they may have seen/heard. I think either:

A) NCAA never heard these particular tapes

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B) the NCAA did hear these tapes and there is not enough evidence on them proving Cam knew