re: Joel Klatt on Auburn Job

He's a moron. He's click baiting Auburn fans to rage comment, and 'Bama fans to LOL share.

By his retarded arse logic, none of the, "other," Texas schools, Florida schools or Basketball schools in North Carolina are great.

He's a troll with a journalism degree.

Funny, no head coach splits Auburn for some other gig, like Ray Perkins, or Bill Curry, or Dennis Franisgone. Even the guys who are fired still stick around town.

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The state argument is just stupid considering Auburn's success and resources. They have a nearly 90k stadium that they can fill and a lot of money. They have Nattys and SEC titles. Do they have the same success as Bama? No, but they certainly have had more success than most "Flagship" schools in other states.

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Yep. If we are a little brother, we’re the most successful one in college football history.

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Funny, no head coach splits Auburn for some other gig, like Ray Perkins, or Bill Curry, or Dennis Franisgone. Even the guys who are fired still stick around town.

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Usually because Auburn gets coaches nobody else wants.

Auburn is a great job and place.

Yes we have boosters who think they are football geniuses, but get past them..

Tuberville, Chizik, and Malzahn reaped the benefits of it.

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And yet “Little Brother” Auburn has more national championships than Klatt’s own powerhouse Colorado.

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Does Colorado have more than one legitimate title? That’s all Auburn has.

Joel Klatt is an idiot. I'm an Alabama fan but anyone saying Auburn isn't a good job doesn't know football and definitely doesn't understand the SEC. What Auburn needs to do is get away from the gimmick offenses and good old boy network hires and get back to hard nosed football.

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i realize this was a troll post, but i’d like to oick your brain for a minute

you were quite right about Harsin ultimately failing at AU (although our idiot admin didn’t do him any favors), and i’ve come to value your opinion on such matters, so i’d be interested in hearing it now:

what name or names announced as AU’s next HC would make you think, “hey, thats a pretty good hire, he’s got a chance to do well there”?

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Honestly I really don't know. I just look at a coaches history and look for the guys who built things and I try to put it into context as much as possible.

Some are easy to see, like right now Cignetti would be an obviously great hire for anyone. Took over and Indiana team that was one of the worst in college football and turn them into contenders. And even before then in lesser divisions he was doing it.

I liked the DeBoer hire for similar reasons even though I really didn't know much about him. Petersen took Washington to the playoffs also, but he's an obviously great coach. Sark kept putting in 7 win seasons there before Petersen, and Lake was terrible before DeBoer. So both of them had to take over and improve the program.

Harsin specifically however I was very familiar with. He made Boise St fans shut up. He took over a team that was spending more than most of the teams it played against. They were BCS busters and all that. And he was pretty mediocre compared to Petersen(who was a great coach and built programs) and what he had to work with. Overall the program declined. I imagine your AD just saw "good G5 coach" and hired him based on having a decent season finally before being hired, but he didn't apply the context in terms of the factors involved.

I just look for guys who have done more with less, while filtering out the ones like Harsin who were born on 3rd.

It's not a sure fire formula that the guys hired who have shown they have built teams will work out. But it's pretty accurate in terms of recognizing the bad ones.

There are exceptions though, and a coach can always improve. Who would have guessed Chizik or Coach O would win NCs? That's a good bit about their coordinators IMO. If I was an AD, I'd want to make sure I had a great budget for assistant coaching even if it meant taking away some funds from the HC salary. Even with Saban the best years were with generally great coordinators etc. 2015 team has both Kirby and Kiffin. 2017 had Pruitt and Daboll(under-rated IMO). Then we get coordinators like BoB and can't win them even with stacked rosters.

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thats what concerns me a little about Sumrall, he did turn Troy around in a hurry but Fritz had already turned Tulane into a solid program

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I don't see any red flags with him. He didn't do as well in his first year at Tulane, but it also looks like he played a tougher schedule. This year it's hard to say though, he would look better if he hadn't lost to UTSA so badly.

But unless he finishes out terrible, it doesn't seem like a bad hire. Not a slam dunk either.

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Dillingham has done solid work at AZ State, but thats his alma mater and he seems to love it there

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I checked him out the other day when someone mentioned him for the LSU job and I don't think he's all that. I can't pretend like the Big12 is really a "power conference", and they had a terrible record.

But they were as big as a dumpster fire you could probably have when he took over, so there's that. But he also went from an actual power conference in the Pac12 to kind of the leftovers. And they still had 2 losses last year and only got in because of AQ status on a pretty weak schedule.

And this year he's already got 3 losses, including one to Miss St who just picked up it's first conference win of the season.

So while he's no doubt improved the team, I don't know that it's to the level other people think it is. I'd say buyer beware on him.

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Golesh at USF has definitely improved that program, but i haven’t seen him mentioned as being on our shortlist

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USF plays real tough. And even though they are barely above .500 he has improved that program, and they are playing decently tough schedules.

They look even better this year though, so he's probably the best one on this list, especially if they finish the year strong. Good turn around, steady improvement.

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i dont want anything to do with the Jimbos and Dabos of the CFB world

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Jimbo is terrible, Dabo might actually not be that bad for Auburn at the right price. He's an experienced coach and with the right resources could stabilize things. I don't think I'd want to see Auburn hire him. People will laugh because of his record this year and the decline since NIL, but as long as the guy isn't just checked out and ready to retire, it's probably a good hire.

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ETA: interesting comment about Daboll, since he appears headed out the door in NY, i wonder if he’d be interested in coming back as an OC?

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I think the deal with him was he didn't like recruiting and such. We only had him the one year. He's not a flashy guy like a Kiffin or anything, so other people don't like him as much as I did. It's possible I would have hated him in time.