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re: Joe Tess: Heisman Race Much Closer Than Expected
Posted on 12/7/15 at 4:46 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 12/7/15 at 4:46 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Henry will never have a game like McCaffrey had vs USC
McCaffrey rarely faces defenses in the same stratosphere as Henry, dude.
Quit being dense.
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Posted on 12/7/15 at 4:47 pm to undecided
quote:That's amazing. Henry breaking Hershel's record is amazing as well. They both deserve an invite to New York IMO.
Mcaffery broke Barry Sanders all purpose yard record
Posted on 12/7/15 at 4:47 pm to ReauxlTide222
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If you still think McCaffrey deserves to win
No, he's deserving as anyone because he's the most versatile player in the game and has the numbers to back that up.
Posted on 12/7/15 at 4:48 pm to Tornado Alley
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McCaffrey rarely faces defenses in the same stratosphere as Henry, dude.
SEC defenses are so "good" because the SEC offense suck.
Posted on 12/7/15 at 4:48 pm to pvilleguru
You've made excellent arguments about why Barry Sanders should win the Heisman because he had more yards than McCaffrey.
McCaffrey however has more yards than Henry from scrimmage...
Henry has 349 touches for 2,073 yards from scrimmage.
McCaffrey has 360 touches for 2,387 yards from scrimmage.
I think Henry's offensive line is better. Alabama has really excellent offensive lines that make good running backs look better than they are.
Henry is probably the third best running back by talent in the SEC behind Fournette and Chubb.
McCaffrey however has more yards than Henry from scrimmage...
Henry has 349 touches for 2,073 yards from scrimmage.
McCaffrey has 360 touches for 2,387 yards from scrimmage.
I think Henry's offensive line is better. Alabama has really excellent offensive lines that make good running backs look better than they are.
Henry is probably the third best running back by talent in the SEC behind Fournette and Chubb.
Posted on 12/7/15 at 4:49 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Meh and the reason other offenses look so good is because they have crap defenses.
Do you know why SEC defenses look so good? Because the SEC has the worst offenses of any P5 conference.
Posted on 12/7/15 at 4:49 pm to Killean
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You put Henry on Stanford and McCaffrey on Alabama and I think that Henry has maybe 1400 yards and McCaffrey is over 2k.
Why would Henry suddenly lose 600 rushing yards when playing weaker competition in the Pac 12 with one of the nation's most efficient passers under center?
Posted on 12/7/15 at 4:50 pm to Killean
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I think Henry's offensive line is better. Alabama has really excellent offensive lines that make good running backs look better than they are.
Alabama's OL isn't that great this year.
Posted on 12/7/15 at 4:50 pm to Tornado Alley
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playing weaker competition in the Pac 12
It's not. The SEC was mediocre this year. It's not any better than any of the P5 conferences.
Posted on 12/7/15 at 4:50 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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SEC defenses are so "good" because the SEC offense suck.
I can use your same logic and say that Pac 12 offenses are so "good" because the Pac 12 defenses suck.
Posted on 12/7/15 at 4:51 pm to pvilleguru
I would love to see how well Kenya Drake would do if he was in Stanford's offense.
Posted on 12/7/15 at 4:51 pm to Tornado Alley
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I can use your same logic and say that Pac 12 offenses are so "good" because the Pac 12 defenses suck.
It may be. But the P10 has much better QB play than the SEC, by far. That's why their offenses are better.
Posted on 12/7/15 at 4:52 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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It's not any better than any of the P5 conference
Oh, okay.
Posted on 12/7/15 at 4:53 pm to Tornado Alley
Fun Fact: Christian McCaffrey is so good that Barry Sanders is his backup.
Posted on 12/7/15 at 4:53 pm to RogerTheShrubber
And the SEC has much better defensive line and secondary play than the Pac 12, by faaaaaaaaaaaaaaar. That's why our defenses are better.
Posted on 12/7/15 at 4:55 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:I'm down with that. But all this "he broke the record!" shite is insufferable.
No, he's deserving as anyone because he's the most versatile player in the game and has the numbers to back that up.
Posted on 12/7/15 at 4:55 pm to Tornado Alley
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And the SEC has much better defensive line and secondary play than the Pac 12, by faaaaaaaaaaaaaaar. That's why our defenses are better.
You're extremely biased. SEC is nothing special this year.
Posted on 12/7/15 at 4:55 pm to MontyFranklyn
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Meh and the reason other offenses look so good is because they have crap defenses.
That won't hold up if this post season is anything like the last.
Posted on 12/7/15 at 4:57 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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You're extremely biased. SEC is nothing special this year
Sorry I'm not letting one bad bowl season in ten cloud my perception of good football conferences.
Posted on 12/7/15 at 4:58 pm to Tornado Alley
quote:I never said I was rooting for Henry. I just think his impact justifies him getting the award. Fan allegiance has nothing to do with worthiness and shouldn't affect any reasonable person's judgment.
You're one of, maybe, four Boogs on tRant actively rooting for Henry.
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