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re: Joe Tess: Heisman Race Much Closer Than Expected
Posted on 12/7/15 at 4:26 pm to MontyFranklyn
Posted on 12/7/15 at 4:26 pm to MontyFranklyn
It's finals week and I hate everyone and everything. 
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Posted on 12/7/15 at 4:28 pm to Tornado Alley
quote:That's not true. I think Henry deserves the award, and I thought Amari Cooper deserved it last year. Their offenses of the last two seasons have been overwhelmingly reliant on their production and they carried their respective teams to SEC championships and playoff berths. I don't have a problem with Bama players or coaches getting their due recognition and praise because they've earned it.
Auburn and LSU fans are pulling for anyone but Henry soooooo hard
Posted on 12/7/15 at 4:28 pm to stevo1905
You're one of, maybe, four Boogs on tRant actively rooting for Henry.
Posted on 12/7/15 at 4:29 pm to Tornado Alley
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Keep in mind that 2600 of Sander's 3000+ all-purpose yards were rushing yards. McCaffrey average 80.2 kickoff return yards per game dude.
He has 2400 yds from scrimmage.
Posted on 12/7/15 at 4:29 pm to Tornado Alley
The number of finalists is determined by the results.
3 finalists is actually good for Henry, as it indicates that Henry, Watson, and McAffery were on just about every ballot, just with the order varying.
If there are 4-5 finalists that's a bad sign for Henry IMO.
That means a lot of people wasted their votes on people like Baker Mayfield and Keeynan Reynolds and stuff. Players who absolutely can't win, but who give voters with an agenda an excuse to leave other players off.
3 finalists is actually good for Henry, as it indicates that Henry, Watson, and McAffery were on just about every ballot, just with the order varying.
If there are 4-5 finalists that's a bad sign for Henry IMO.
That means a lot of people wasted their votes on people like Baker Mayfield and Keeynan Reynolds and stuff. Players who absolutely can't win, but who give voters with an agenda an excuse to leave other players off.
Posted on 12/7/15 at 4:32 pm to Tornado Alley
If things were going better on the Plains I might be a little more generous in my well wishes for Henry.
However, it's a complete cluster in Lee County and the very last thing we need in a year we were projected to win the SEC and compete for a NC is Bama's Heisman trophy winning running back hoisting the trophy instead.
Sorry not sorry
However, it's a complete cluster in Lee County and the very last thing we need in a year we were projected to win the SEC and compete for a NC is Bama's Heisman trophy winning running back hoisting the trophy instead.
Sorry not sorry
Posted on 12/7/15 at 4:34 pm to IAmReality
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Keenan Reynolds
Dude plays for the Naval academy, out of the 3 I'd say he's most deserving of a "just because"
Also, this is a made for ESPN event. I'm sure they'll love playing up the Service Academy, 'Murica aspect of his presence. I mean he could possibly travel by helicopter, can't see ESPN missing out on a chance for that image
This post was edited on 12/7/15 at 4:37 pm
Posted on 12/7/15 at 4:35 pm to undecided
I wanted him to make the ceremony just to see a helicopter take him from the Army-Navy game to NYC.
Posted on 12/7/15 at 4:36 pm to lowspark12
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I don't give a shite about the award... it represents a lot of what is screwed up about CFB... rarely does the player with the best season actually win.
True
There are three who could win it this year, and all would be deserving in one way or another. The award is viewed differently by so many people though.
Posted on 12/7/15 at 4:40 pm to undecided
Derrick Henry:
339 carries, 1,986 yards, 5.9 ypc, 23 TDs.
10 catches, 97 yards.
Christian McCaffrey:
319 carries, 1,847 yards, 5.8 ypc, 8 TDs.
41 catches, 540 yards, 4 TDs.
36 KOR, 1,047 yards, 1 TD
2/3 passing 39 yards, 2 TD
Deshaun Watson Stats:
287/413 passing, 69.5% completion, 3,512 yards, 30 TD, 11 INT
163 carries, 887 yards, 5.4ypc, 11 TD
How I think it will go:
Henry
McCaffrey
Watson
How I think it SHOULD go after watching them:
McCaffrey
Henry
Watson
McCaffrey just impresses the hell out of me, more so than Henry.
339 carries, 1,986 yards, 5.9 ypc, 23 TDs.
10 catches, 97 yards.
Christian McCaffrey:
319 carries, 1,847 yards, 5.8 ypc, 8 TDs.
41 catches, 540 yards, 4 TDs.
36 KOR, 1,047 yards, 1 TD
2/3 passing 39 yards, 2 TD
Deshaun Watson Stats:
287/413 passing, 69.5% completion, 3,512 yards, 30 TD, 11 INT
163 carries, 887 yards, 5.4ypc, 11 TD
How I think it will go:
Henry
McCaffrey
Watson
How I think it SHOULD go after watching them:
McCaffrey
Henry
Watson
McCaffrey just impresses the hell out of me, more so than Henry.
Posted on 12/7/15 at 4:41 pm to RogerTheShrubber
K.
Sanders had more yards from scrimmage in less games and has almost 20 more TDs.
Are we done pretending McCaffrey is as good as Henry?
Sanders had more yards from scrimmage in less games and has almost 20 more TDs.
Are we done pretending McCaffrey is as good as Henry?
Posted on 12/7/15 at 4:42 pm to Tornado Alley
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Sanders had more yards from scrimmage in less games and has almost 20 more TDs.
Good for him.
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Are we done pretending McCaffrey is as good as Henry?
He is. He's a different type of running back. In fact, there could easily be an argument that he's better.
Henry will never have a game like McCaffrey had vs USC
Posted on 12/7/15 at 4:43 pm to Killean
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McCaffrey just impresses the hell out of me, more so than Henry.
Stats alone mean nothing if you don't factor in the level of competition.
Henry put up his numbers against much, much better defenses.
Posted on 12/7/15 at 4:43 pm to Tornado Alley
I think McCaffrey is better than Henry.
You put Henry on Stanford and McCaffrey on Alabama and I think that Henry has maybe 1400 yards and McCaffrey is over 2k.
You put Henry on Stanford and McCaffrey on Alabama and I think that Henry has maybe 1400 yards and McCaffrey is over 2k.
Posted on 12/7/15 at 4:43 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Oh, wait up, one more thing, Sanders had 344 carries in 1988, 25 more more than McCaffrey has right now, yet he ended up with 800 more rushing yards than McCaffrey in eleven games as compared to thirteen.
It's Henry. Get over it.
It's Henry. Get over it.
Posted on 12/7/15 at 4:44 pm to Killean
Someone with 11 INTs is up for the Heisman?
Posted on 12/7/15 at 4:44 pm to Tornado Alley
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Oh, wait up, one more thing, Sanders had 344 carries in 1988, 25 more more than McCaffrey has right now, yet he ended up with 800 more rushing yards than McCaffrey in eleven games as compared to thirteen.
What does that..
quote:
It's Henry. Get over it.
Have to do with this? Henry had LESS yards from scrimmage than McCaffrey.
Posted on 12/7/15 at 4:45 pm to Killean
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I think McCaffrey is better than Henry.
You put Henry on Stanford and McCaffrey on Alabama and I think that Henry has maybe 1400 yards and McCaffrey is over 2k.
Dude Henry would have 2500 yards in the PAC 12. McCaffery wouldn't touch the field at Bama at RB. May not at WR. Have you seen those defenses? They are almost Big 12 bad. 
Posted on 12/7/15 at 4:46 pm to undecided
quote:Look at their numbers and where each got them. If you still think McCaffrey deserves to win simply because he owns that record, then you're just trolling.
Mcaffery broke Barry Sanders all purpose yard record
Posted on 12/7/15 at 4:46 pm to MontyFranklyn
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Dude Henry would have 2500 yards in the PAC 12.
Do you know why SEC defenses look so good? Because the SEC has the worst offenses of any P5 conference.
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