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re: JFF will get screwed over in Heisman voting
Posted on 12/6/12 at 10:00 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
Posted on 12/6/12 at 10:00 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
bhart's mama shite in his ear for brains...
Is the 99 your IQ?
Compare what other SEC QBs did against LSU and UF. As a matter of fact, add what Driskel and Shaw did COMBINED against LSU and compare it to Manziel.
Florida was his first college game EVER playing on a team with a new staff in their first game. You don't know the significance of that?
Anyway, I am sure someone is waiting at the window for their order. You better get back to work.

Is the 99 your IQ?
Compare what other SEC QBs did against LSU and UF. As a matter of fact, add what Driskel and Shaw did COMBINED against LSU and compare it to Manziel.
Florida was his first college game EVER playing on a team with a new staff in their first game. You don't know the significance of that?
Anyway, I am sure someone is waiting at the window for their order. You better get back to work.

This post was edited on 12/6/12 at 10:01 pm
Posted on 12/6/12 at 10:03 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
Because without Teo they don't play in the national championship game. PERIOD
With Teo 12-0....without 9-3
With JFF 10-2...without 9-3.
Difference is one team plays in the NCG because of their defensive leader and the other team plays in the Cotton bowl because of their offensive leader.
With Teo 12-0....without 9-3
With JFF 10-2...without 9-3.
Difference is one team plays in the NCG because of their defensive leader and the other team plays in the Cotton bowl because of their offensive leader.
Posted on 12/6/12 at 10:05 pm to bhart99
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With Teo 12-0....without 9-3
With JFF 10-2...without 9-3.
Um...no.
Without Te'O, Notre Dame wins at least 10 games. Steven Truitt and Prince Shembo are the reason that Notre Dame is doing as well on defense as they are.
Without Manziel, A&M loses the Louisiana Tech, Ole Miss, and Alabama games at a minimum.
Posted on 12/6/12 at 10:05 pm to Tel U Something Good
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add what Driskel and Shaw did COMBINED against LSU and compare it to Manziel.
Damn i didn't realize Shaw and Driskel were up for the Heisman. They're 25 QB's in college football better than both those bums.
Posted on 12/6/12 at 10:09 pm to bhart99
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With JFF 10-2...without 9-3.
This is the dumbest post of them all. Manziel accounts for more than a one game improvement. More like 3-5, depending on who the alternative is.
Posted on 12/6/12 at 10:19 pm to graychef
When JFF walks into a court room, the judge stands up.
Posted on 12/6/12 at 10:21 pm to bhart99
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And please don't come with "well that's because he put up these numbers against SEC defenses" There's only 5 "SEC defenses" JFF faced 3 and blew against 2 of them. All those gaudy numbers were mostly put up against shitty defenses.
Bhart=idiot
Navy? Purdue? BC? WF? BYU? You want to compare schedule weakness and talk about strength of schedule? It's easy to manipulate stats. Here are the facts. The toughest 3 offenses t-back faced (considered elite this year, maybe OU) are ranked 12th (OU), 37th (Stanford) and 71st (USC). JFF in contrast faced the 2nd, 3rd and 11th ranked defenses in AL, FL and LSU. And by the way, against this disaster LSU game you like to reference, he posted the best stats of any QB LSU faced all year, 300+ in the air and on the ground, by himself. If not for a few missed FGs within the 30, ND would be facing A&M.
TEO’s stats are not stellar. Not even top 10 nationally at his position. You don’t like stats? They speak the truth. Anything else is conjecture. Let's face it. Teo is a slightly above average LB on a team that faced mostly weak teams. The perfect storm for ND. If placed in the SEC he MAYBE would be included in the top 10 at his position.........likely near the bottom of that group. Jarvis Jones would kick his arse alone. Is JJ considered for the Heisman? No. Teo shouldn’t be either. Feel sorry for his off the field issues. Sympathy has no place for this award.

Posted on 12/6/12 at 10:22 pm to troywew
WTF? What's wrong with a 99 IQ?
Posted on 12/6/12 at 10:30 pm to VonDaMan
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300+ in the air and on the ground, by himself. If not for a few missed FGs within the 30, ND would be facing A&M.
You're making a big assumption that we still beat Alabama after they crush a demoralized LSU team AND we beat Georgia in Atlanta.
Posted on 12/6/12 at 10:46 pm to LesterGreenJr
100 is an average IQ. Reckon 99 is 'below average'
Posted on 12/6/12 at 11:00 pm to boXerrumble
The meltdown here would be historic. Not that I'm rooting against the guy but I would actually pay to see this.
Posted on 12/6/12 at 11:03 pm to Bham4Tide
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The meltdown here would be historic. Not that I'm rooting against the guy but I would actually pay to see this.
If you really want to be entertained, go see the meltdown on TexAgs Football Board. If I didn't have so much invested in A&M's success that will come from a Heisman win, I would be praying for T'eo to get it just so I could watch the hilarity that would ensue on THE ZOO.
Posted on 12/6/12 at 11:05 pm to cokebottleag
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If te'o wins, they need to retire the trophy, because it will be obvious it isn't about on-field performance. It's all about who has the best personal story and who is on USC/ND/UTa's roster.
this
Posted on 12/6/12 at 11:31 pm to Carson123987
why are you guys arguing with bhart99? dude is one of the biggest MSB and SEC Rant trolls around. He picks any anti-SEC stance and runs with it, whether it's acting like an Oregon fan or ND fan. Ignore him and hopefully he will commit suicide.
Posted on 12/6/12 at 11:33 pm to bhart99
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Well ND held the #13 scoring offense in Oklahoma to 13 points in Norman might i add.
Also USC has the 2 best WR's in the nation. ND shut em do
The Land thieves play no one that knows what the word defense means.
Barkley didn't get to play n that game and besides stomping grass, Teo had almost squat to do with slowing them down anyway. he's not even the best D player on his own team.
Posted on 12/6/12 at 11:33 pm to Escobar600
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Escobar600
Thanks for the warning. Wish we would have known sooner.
Posted on 12/7/12 at 2:13 am to bhart99
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SHOWCASE GAMES AGAINST ELITE TEAMS>SO SO GAMES AGAINST AVERAGE TEAMS
Completely agree--you saw that evinced on November 10th in T-town.
What elite teams has Te'o played?
Stanford? OU? Hardly elite.
Dude actually regressed statistically from last year.
1.5 sacks.
Look, you're either a ND fan or a TAMU/SEC hater. The reality is, there's simply no logical argument that strikes the heart of Heisman criteria which favors Te'o. There's just not.
SOS, defining moment, records, season relative to prior winners--they all favor Johnny.
You want to give the Heisman to a LB? Give it to Jarvis Jones.
This post was edited on 12/7/12 at 2:20 am
Posted on 12/7/12 at 2:16 am to DWag215
JFF torn up the periodic table because he only recognizes the element of fear and the element of surprise.
Posted on 12/7/12 at 2:18 am to bhart99
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With JFF 10-2...without 9-3.
You do understand that 1/3 of our 3rd down conversions came from his scrambling, right? Not just his arm; not designed runs...but his improvisation.
Unfortunately your ignorance has me at a loss for words. I'd like to explain in further detail why you're wrong, but it'd be like explaining calculus to a five year old.
Posted on 12/7/12 at 2:29 am to troywew
Just wanted to let you know your thread bombing with JFF facts tonight has been noticed and appreciated 

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