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re: JFF will get screwed over in Heisman voting
Posted on 11/25/12 at 10:02 am to tigerfan in bamaland
Posted on 11/25/12 at 10:02 am to tigerfan in bamaland
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4600 Yards? New SEC record, as a freshman...redonkulus.
In two less games than the old record holder. Depending on the bowl game, Manziel might finish with over 5,000 yards of total offense... and he sat out for 12 quarters.
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Posted on 11/25/12 at 10:22 am to TeLeFaWx
Wouldn't be shocked if it happens. People are sick of the SEC and if they can't beat them on the field then they will try to beat them in the off the field beauty pageant.
Would be a total travesty, but people don't care about overlooking a freshman because they'll say, eh, he can just win it next year. Which is total bullshite to be forced to win it twice to only put one on the mantle.
After 2004 I never want to see another SEC team not get their due because of the beauty pageant voting system. Save that judging shite for figure skating, it has no place in grown arse man football.
Would be a total travesty, but people don't care about overlooking a freshman because they'll say, eh, he can just win it next year. Which is total bullshite to be forced to win it twice to only put one on the mantle.
After 2004 I never want to see another SEC team not get their due because of the beauty pageant voting system. Save that judging shite for figure skating, it has no place in grown arse man football.
Posted on 11/25/12 at 10:28 am to AUin02
If it does happen, I hope Yeldon, Lacy or Gurley (whoever it ends up being) runs Manti over all night in Miami
Posted on 12/6/12 at 8:36 pm to Lordofwrath88
Already looking like Manziel will be screwed.
Te'o winning will be a joke.
Te'o winning will be a joke.
Posted on 12/6/12 at 8:50 pm to boXerrumble
I agree with those that feel like the Maxwell award is the consolation prize. JFF still has good odds of winning
Posted on 12/6/12 at 8:53 pm to Spirit Of Aggieland
I think it's more about how he shite the bed in 2 of the 3 biggest games he played this season. All the rest of the defenses he played this year outside of those 3 teams were pretty shitty. On the other hand Teo and his fellow defenders showed up big time in their biggest games this season.
Posted on 12/6/12 at 8:56 pm to Spirit Of Aggieland
If Te'o wins it will be b Peyton Manning-like travesty.
Te'o stats:
103 Total Tackles (52 solo), 5.5 TFL, 1.5 sacks, 7 INTs
Kevin Minter's stats:
111 Total Tackles (48 solo), 13.5 TFL, 3.0 sacks, 1 INT, 1 FF
Te'o stats:
103 Total Tackles (52 solo), 5.5 TFL, 1.5 sacks, 7 INTs
Kevin Minter's stats:
111 Total Tackles (48 solo), 13.5 TFL, 3.0 sacks, 1 INT, 1 FF
Posted on 12/6/12 at 8:56 pm to bhart99
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On the other hand Teo and his fellow defenders showed up big time in their biggest games this season.
7 total tackles in a 3 overtime game against Pittsburgh.
I rest my case.
Posted on 12/6/12 at 8:56 pm to bhart99
You mean like the ND v. Pitt game?
Posted on 12/6/12 at 9:03 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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7 total tackles in a 3 overtime game against Pittsburgh.
I rest my case.
17 rushes for 27 yards and 3 int's against LSU.
I rest my case.
Also you act as if 1 game of only 7 total tackles is bad. The problem is you guys just continue to get caught up with stats. It's not all about numbers.
This post was edited on 12/6/12 at 9:05 pm
Posted on 12/6/12 at 9:05 pm to Spirit Of Aggieland
2 out of the last 12 heismans were Maxwell winners. It's a consolation prize given to the most emotional player on the most popularized team at the time. Manziel is still winning in the stiffarmtrophy update and the Scripps-Howard heisman poll has him winning it as well (they've called 21 of the last 25). He'll win. If he doesn't it'll be a travesty of the highest magnitude.
Posted on 12/6/12 at 9:05 pm to bhart99
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17 rushes for 27 yards and 3 int's against LSU.
I rest my case.
LSU = 10-2 and #8 in the BCS
Pitt = 6-6 and lost to Youngstown State by 2 touchdowns.
Your point is invalid.
Posted on 12/6/12 at 9:06 pm to bhart99
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Also you act as if 1 game of only 7 total tackles is bad. The problem is you guys just continue to get caught up with stats. It's not all about numbers.
If you take Te'O off of Notre Dame...they still win at least 10 games. He's not even the best player on his own defense. Shembo and Truitt are.
Or a better question:
If you put Johnny Manziel on Notre Dame and Manti Te'O on Texas A&M, do they still have the same records?
This post was edited on 12/6/12 at 9:08 pm
Posted on 12/6/12 at 9:08 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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If you take Te'O off of Notre Dame...they still win at least 10 games. He's not even the best player on his own defense. Shembo and Truitt are.
Yep and you also probably predicted they'd be a 6-6 team before the season started. The fact is he's not just a great college football player but he's an emotional leader which is what you need when your winning close ball games.
And if he wasn't a great football player then why the hell is he projected to go in the top 2 or 3 in the upcoming draft?
Posted on 12/6/12 at 9:09 pm to boXerrumble
If so it's BS, JFF deserves heisman 
Posted on 12/6/12 at 9:10 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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LSU = 10-2 and #8 in the BCS
Pitt = 6-6 and lost to Youngstown State by 2 touchdowns.
Your point is invalid.
Nope actually my point is very valid. FOr Heisman contenders it's more about what you do against the elite teams rather than what you do against the average teams. Why the hell do you think Manziel is the frontrunner? Because he played well against the supposed best defense in the country. SHOWCASE GAMES AGAINST ELITE TEAMS>SO SO GAMES AGAINST AVERAGE TEAMS
Posted on 12/6/12 at 9:11 pm to bhart99
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And if he wasn't a great football player then why the hell is he projected to go in the top 2 or 3 in the upcoming draft?
Now I know you're smoking crack.
The highest I've seen Te'O projected was 7th in any mock draft...and that will probably drop once he goes to the combine.
Just because Skip Bayloser thinks he's "The next Ray Lewis" (who averages more tackles for loss per game than Te'O has all season), doesn't make it even close to true.
This post was edited on 12/6/12 at 9:13 pm
Posted on 12/6/12 at 9:13 pm to bhart99
and lets face it the only reason you guys are obsessed with JFF winning the Heisman is because he plays in the SEC. IF aTm was still in the BIg 12 you wouldn't be defending him like you are now.
And please don't come with "well that's because he put up these numbers against SEC defenses" There's only 5 "SEC defenses" JFF faced 3 and blew against 2 of them. All those gaudy numbers were mostly put up against shitty defenses.
And please don't come with "well that's because he put up these numbers against SEC defenses" There's only 5 "SEC defenses" JFF faced 3 and blew against 2 of them. All those gaudy numbers were mostly put up against shitty defenses.
Posted on 12/6/12 at 9:14 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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Now I know you're smoking crack.
The highest I've seen Te'O projected was 7th in any mock draft...and that will probably drop once he goes to the combine.
Kiper today on ESPN had him #2 on his Big BOard.
Posted on 12/6/12 at 9:16 pm to bhart99
quote:you are trying way too hard
bhart99
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