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re: Its wild how far the Sugar has fallen and how the Rose is still extremely prestigious

Posted on 1/2/20 at 1:49 pm to
Posted by vjp819
South Sec. 414 / Alex Box Sec. 210
Member since Nov 2003
10882 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 1:49 pm to
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It’s the Big 12 tie in.


I knew it wasn't going to be a huge crowd in the dome, but on tv it looked less than half filled. I'd be curious to know how many attended.

ETA: is see the advocate list attendance as 55,200, but it was nowhere close to that.
This post was edited on 1/2/20 at 1:51 pm
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98745 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 1:52 pm to
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Byproduct of the pac12 not sending many teams to the playoffs.


And the SEC Champion almost never being in the Sugar.
Posted by XenScott
Pensacola
Member since Oct 2016
3133 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 1:54 pm to
The "real" sugar bowl is the 13th. The one last night was in name only.
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 1:55 pm to
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Old Mess played in a Sugar Bowl recently. That should tell you all you need to know.
Posted by TigerTalker16
Columbia,MO
Member since Apr 2015
11533 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 1:55 pm to
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that's the way it should be. the rest of this nonsense is basically akin to participation trophies

But that take away what makes CFB so great. Also, enjoy you’re Sugar Bowl participation trophy
Posted by Hobnailboot
Minneapolis
Member since Sep 2012
6094 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 1:59 pm to
Dont really care. Cool and all, but finishing 4th this year means we are the 3rd runner up.
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
14895 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 2:12 pm to
The sec best always is in the playoffs. The sugar would be fine if one of the little 8 was good to get in
Posted by AirbusDawg
Milton, Ga
Member since Jan 2018
2305 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 2:17 pm to
One is in New Orleans. The shite hole of America. That's what killed it.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 2:23 pm to
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The playoff killed all of it. Bowl season isn’t what it used to be. They made the playoff to make CFB more interesting and it’s done the opposite. If you’re team isn’t in the top 4, nobody cares.


I mean any of this was obvious the day they announced the playoffs.

We went from having ten teams thinking they had a great season in the BCS era (two in the national title game and eight in the four BCS games) to only four teams now have a great season.

But it won't kill the sport, it will just force the gatekeepers of college football to do what they should have done day one and make it an eight team playoffs.

Then we will get back to eight teams every year having a great year (like the BCS system until 2006) and college football will be "saved" when some of those eight slots are reserved for regional conference champions who can't make it in the current system (aka the PAC).

The eight team playoff will be the nail in the coffin for "prestigious" bowls but bowl games will still matter for the extra practice and players sitting out bowls were going to ruin non-playoff games anyway eventually.
Posted by Swamp Angel
Georgia
Member since Jul 2004
7282 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 3:37 pm to
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Its wild how far the Sugar has fallen and how the Rose is still extremely prestigious


A big part of it is how the CFP has interjected itself into traditional bowl games. Not to mention that the strength of the SEC has also been detrimental to the Sugar Bowl.

The Sugar Bowl was once the domain of the SEC Champion, but since the SEC Champ now plays wherever is deemed necessary in the CFP, the Sugar Bowl now has to settle on the 2nd place or (in the event of two SEC teams in the CFP) the 3rd place team in the SEC.

The Rose Bowl has no such issues yet, since the PAC-12 can't figure out how to even make the CFP, so there's always one conference champ playing in Pasadena, and the B1G-10 may or may not field a team worthy of the CFP, thus they will have a semi-decent team at the Rose Bowl as well.

The unintended consequences of the CFP have included belittling the Sugar Bowl since nowadays the SEC champion will be in the playoffs. It makes my think I'd like to go back to the days of bowl/conference affiliations and then play a plus one between tow bowl winners based upon the BCS standards. (A "plus one" type of affair.)
Posted by jcljag
Mobile
Member since Dec 2007
713 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 3:41 pm to
Post of the year
Posted by Cobb Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
9804 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 3:45 pm to
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One is a beautiful stadium in a beautiful setting.
The other isnt.


Sad to say but dammit, this too


.......and in a beautiful city and state. NOLA is a third world city in a third world state.
Posted by NOBOTIGER
Member since Sep 2019
270 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 3:48 pm to
The rose bowl is a bunch of over rated crap....
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
20992 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 3:50 pm to
I think the SEC championship and playoff hurts the Sugar more than the Rose. It is very likely a Pac12/Big10 will have some quality teams in the game because very likely they are not participating in the CFP.

Lets be honest, there is a let down now for the SEC team that makes the Sugar in a non-playoff year.

Those Pac12/Big10 teams play for the Rose bowl birth. SEC teams play for the playoff birth.
Posted by CFFreak
Rjyh, AL
Member since May 2019
8765 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 4:41 pm to
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.......and in a beautiful city and state. NOLA is a third world city in a third world state.



The city is great. So is the state. The stadium ... eh not so much.
Posted by CFFreak
Rjyh, AL
Member since May 2019
8765 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 4:43 pm to
Just follow the money.
Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
30949 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 5:23 pm to
I know, it was sad being in the dome last night and looking around at all those empty seats. The environment was depressing.
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