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re: Its wild how far the Sugar has fallen and how the Rose is still extremely prestigious
Posted on 1/2/20 at 1:49 pm to Dawgfanman
Posted on 1/2/20 at 1:49 pm to Dawgfanman
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It’s the Big 12 tie in.
I knew it wasn't going to be a huge crowd in the dome, but on tv it looked less than half filled. I'd be curious to know how many attended.
ETA: is see the advocate list attendance as 55,200, but it was nowhere close to that.
This post was edited on 1/2/20 at 1:51 pm
Posted on 1/2/20 at 1:52 pm to MoarKilometers
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Byproduct of the pac12 not sending many teams to the playoffs.
And the SEC Champion almost never being in the Sugar.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 1:54 pm to udtiger
The "real" sugar bowl is the 13th. The one last night was in name only.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 1:55 pm to In The Know
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Old Mess played in a Sugar Bowl recently. That should tell you all you need to know.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 1:55 pm to Hobnailboot
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that's the way it should be. the rest of this nonsense is basically akin to participation trophies
But that take away what makes CFB so great. Also, enjoy you’re Sugar Bowl participation trophy
Posted on 1/2/20 at 1:59 pm to TigerTalker16
Dont really care. Cool and all, but finishing 4th this year means we are the 3rd runner up.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 2:12 pm to CBandits82
The sec best always is in the playoffs. The sugar would be fine if one of the little 8 was good to get in
Posted on 1/2/20 at 2:17 pm to Big4SALTbro
One is in New Orleans. The shite hole of America. That's what killed it.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 2:23 pm to TigerTalker16
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The playoff killed all of it. Bowl season isn’t what it used to be. They made the playoff to make CFB more interesting and it’s done the opposite. If you’re team isn’t in the top 4, nobody cares.
I mean any of this was obvious the day they announced the playoffs.
We went from having ten teams thinking they had a great season in the BCS era (two in the national title game and eight in the four BCS games) to only four teams now have a great season.
But it won't kill the sport, it will just force the gatekeepers of college football to do what they should have done day one and make it an eight team playoffs.
Then we will get back to eight teams every year having a great year (like the BCS system until 2006) and college football will be "saved" when some of those eight slots are reserved for regional conference champions who can't make it in the current system (aka the PAC).
The eight team playoff will be the nail in the coffin for "prestigious" bowls but bowl games will still matter for the extra practice and players sitting out bowls were going to ruin non-playoff games anyway eventually.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 3:37 pm to CBandits82
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Its wild how far the Sugar has fallen and how the Rose is still extremely prestigious
A big part of it is how the CFP has interjected itself into traditional bowl games. Not to mention that the strength of the SEC has also been detrimental to the Sugar Bowl.
The Sugar Bowl was once the domain of the SEC Champion, but since the SEC Champ now plays wherever is deemed necessary in the CFP, the Sugar Bowl now has to settle on the 2nd place or (in the event of two SEC teams in the CFP) the 3rd place team in the SEC.
The Rose Bowl has no such issues yet, since the PAC-12 can't figure out how to even make the CFP, so there's always one conference champ playing in Pasadena, and the B1G-10 may or may not field a team worthy of the CFP, thus they will have a semi-decent team at the Rose Bowl as well.
The unintended consequences of the CFP have included belittling the Sugar Bowl since nowadays the SEC champion will be in the playoffs. It makes my think I'd like to go back to the days of bowl/conference affiliations and then play a plus one between tow bowl winners based upon the BCS standards. (A "plus one" type of affair.)
Posted on 1/2/20 at 3:45 pm to CFFreak
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One is a beautiful stadium in a beautiful setting.
The other isnt.
Sad to say but dammit, this too
.......and in a beautiful city and state. NOLA is a third world city in a third world state.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 3:48 pm to CBandits82
The rose bowl is a bunch of over rated crap....
Posted on 1/2/20 at 3:50 pm to Hobnailboot
I think the SEC championship and playoff hurts the Sugar more than the Rose. It is very likely a Pac12/Big10 will have some quality teams in the game because very likely they are not participating in the CFP.
Lets be honest, there is a let down now for the SEC team that makes the Sugar in a non-playoff year.
Those Pac12/Big10 teams play for the Rose bowl birth. SEC teams play for the playoff birth.
Lets be honest, there is a let down now for the SEC team that makes the Sugar in a non-playoff year.
Those Pac12/Big10 teams play for the Rose bowl birth. SEC teams play for the playoff birth.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 4:41 pm to Cobb Dawg
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.......and in a beautiful city and state. NOLA is a third world city in a third world state.
The city is great. So is the state. The stadium ... eh not so much.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 5:23 pm to CBandits82
I know, it was sad being in the dome last night and looking around at all those empty seats. The environment was depressing.
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