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re: It's time for the scheduling of non-conference patsies to stop

Posted on 9/20/12 at 9:29 am to
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 9/20/12 at 9:29 am to
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Why? If every other division 1 team is doing the same thing it's fair. So what if there are no undefeated teams.



This also hurts the teams who's source of revenue for their athletic budget for the year is based upon playing teams like Bama, Auburn, LSU etc...

My cousin is a QB for presbyterian, they just played GA tech and Vandy, Tech paid for their new construction on a gym and Vandy went towards new dorms
Posted by King Crimson
Houston
Member since Oct 2011
1024 posts
Posted on 9/20/12 at 9:34 am to
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And we play in the mutherlovin SEC for cryin out loud. We play 8 marquee games a year.


Even more reason to implement a system like I'm proposing. Why should a Pac 12 or Big 12 team get to play a patsy conference schedule and 4 non-conference patsies too? If they're going to claim they are #1, make them prove it.
Posted by MaroonNation
StarkVegas, Mississippi, Bitch!
Member since Nov 2010
21950 posts
Posted on 9/20/12 at 9:36 am to
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Sir, I say this with all due respect. If you aren't going to read my original post, don't post in this thread.


And I can say, with all due respect, if you want an NFL schedule then go watch football in Atlanta
Posted by gatorhata9
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2010
26175 posts
Posted on 9/20/12 at 10:00 am to
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Even more reason to implement a system like I'm proposing. Why should a Pac 12 or Big 12 team get to play a patsy conference schedule and 4 non-conference patsies too? If they're going to claim they are #1, make them prove it.


What are you talking about? That has nothing to do with your original argument.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261251 posts
Posted on 9/20/12 at 10:08 am to
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It's time for the scheduling of non-conference patsies to stop


Totally agree with you here.. Teams should be punished for scheduling shitty rent a wins (FBS or FCS/non BCS conference)
Posted by gatorhata9
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2010
26175 posts
Posted on 9/20/12 at 10:19 am to
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Totally agree with you here.. Teams should be punished for scheduling shitty rent a wins (FBS or FCS/non BCS conference)


You then deprive those small schools of millions of dollars a year. How do people not grasp this concept?
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36703 posts
Posted on 9/20/12 at 10:22 am to
I'm embarrased that we're playing Idaho and Towson. Nothing wrong with Washington and either North Texas or Idaho. But not both. And if we're going to play some 1-AA goober,play one from Louisiana, not Baltimore.
Posted by King Crimson
Houston
Member since Oct 2011
1024 posts
Posted on 9/20/12 at 10:32 am to
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I'm embarrased that we're playing Idaho and Towson. Nothing wrong with Washington and either North Texas or Idaho. But not both. And if we're going to play some 1-AA goober,play one from Louisiana, not Baltimore.


I know what you mean. Wouldn't you rather see LSU vs Texas than LSU vs Idaho? Or, LSU vs Florida State than LSU vs Towson? And, if all the other top 25 teams were playing the same caliber of non-conference opponents it would be awesome.
Posted by memphisplaya
Member since Jan 2009
85828 posts
Posted on 9/20/12 at 10:57 am to
Next week was suppose to be LSU vs TCU

they backed out late and we had to scramble to find someone to fill that slot.

Next year we get TCU in Dallas and UAB. I'm fine with that. Trip to Dallas and we can finally get revenge for Saban's blunder against UAB.
This post was edited on 9/20/12 at 10:59 am
Posted by CockRocket
Columbia, SC
Member since May 2012
6840 posts
Posted on 9/20/12 at 10:59 am to
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Frankly, I'm pissed off that Alabama would even schedule a team like FAMU

You mean FAU?
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Instead of the universities making their own non-conference schedules, have the NCAA do it.

You want the NCAA to have more power? What University would agree to this? I wouldn't want USC spending all that money to travel to places like Stanford, Okie State, and Wisconsin every single year for games most fans can't even go to.
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Here is one possible way.

So you don't like conferences? I'm so confused by all of this. I didn't read the whole thread but this idea sucks. How many rivalries are lost with this scheduling format? There just isn't a good way to make this fair. Every year schools that were good/great the year before can't have the same success so you can't really base it off of last year.

Also, Its a South Carolina state law that the bigger programs (USC & Clemson) schedule and play smaller in-state schools such as Wofford, Furman, or the Citadel each year. A lot of smaller schools get a huge check for playing in these games. They rely on that money for a lot of reasons.
Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
8714 posts
Posted on 9/20/12 at 11:07 am to
Crimson,

The world just doesn't work that way, there are far too many factors that will prevent that from happening and honestly it shouldn't happen.

1. The NCAA has nothing to do with scheduling FBS teams. If anything the power of the NCAA over big time football is going away, not strengthening. The conferences and the schools run the show and they aren't giving up that power.

2. Schools schedule patsies so they can get wins and go to bowl games. Folks like undefeated teams and no one likes a winless team. The current system makes those 2 things more likely.

3. Small programs need the money. For FCS teams and fledgling FBS teams it is critical to their budget to play buyout games. If your stadium holds 20k and you sell tickets for $15 a chance to get a $750k payout to play a big time program is HUGE. 2 for 1 and 3 for 1 scenarios also are big because often folks from the big school will just buy season tickets because they aren't much more expensive, that's what happened with A&M's game against SMU last weekend. It also gives them a chance to market at least 1 marquee game.

4. Small schools love these games. Sure they know they will likely lose but at least they get a chance to play i Tiger Stadium or Kyle Field. That's a cool experience. They also get to learn how much they have to work on to get better by playing top competition and can keep the dream of being an Appalachian State or the like and pulling out the unexpected win.

5. It's good for the players on the big team. It allows them to work on their schemes in a glorified scrimmage. It allows for the backups to get on the field and get experience and show they deserve a shot at moving up the depth chart as well.

6. It makes for at least a couple of games that "normal" folks can go to. At A&M the face value for Florida tickets was $100. If you actually could get them that is, on Stubhub it was 3 times that for mediocre seats. For SC State they have some cheap seats that you can buy on promotions for as low as $30. That at least makes it feasible for someone that isn't rolling in cash to take their kid to a game and experience big time college football. That's good for everyone. If every game is a feature game you can't do that.
Posted by mauser
Orange Beach
Member since Nov 2008
21699 posts
Posted on 9/20/12 at 11:21 am to
I agree with you King
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
19322 posts
Posted on 9/20/12 at 1:14 pm to
Unless a team has a ton of depth, like LSU or bama, no coach is going to want to risk the amount of injuries that would occur when his top 22-30 players have to play every down of every game. LSU has lost a starting CB, LB, Ol, RB, and Safety ( last 2 for substantial amounts of game time) and we have not even started conference play yet. There was a good reason why St.Bobby elected to go to the ACC & not the SEC: he knew his starters would only have to play mabe 3 quarters in only a few games each yr. My main bitch is charging me the same ticket price, as a season ticket holder, for Towson as for bama, S.Carolina, Moo St, etc.
Posted by gatorhata9
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2010
26175 posts
Posted on 9/20/12 at 1:19 pm to
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aggressor


He doesn't understand the ramifications of what would happen. He just knows he wants to see better games each week and doesn't understand the importance in playing FCS schools.
Posted by attheua
Tuscaloosa
Member since Apr 2008
5442 posts
Posted on 9/20/12 at 1:26 pm to
They'll stop scheduling high school teams when the fans stop paying to see them. I can't justify going to these games anymore, and the number of people like me is getting larger I think.
Posted by AUnite
The Tragic City
Member since Nov 2010
14828 posts
Posted on 9/20/12 at 1:31 pm to
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Next year we get TCU in Dallas and UAB. I'm fine with that. Trip to Dallas and we can finally get revenge for Saban's blunder against UAB.

Go Blazers! :insert my blaze gif you're making here:
Posted by gatorhata9
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2010
26175 posts
Posted on 9/20/12 at 1:46 pm to
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They'll stop scheduling high school teams when the fans stop paying to see them. I can't justify going to these games anymore, and the number of people like me is getting larger I think.



No they won't.
Posted by TwoBarBammer
Member since Jul 2012
421 posts
Posted on 9/20/12 at 1:52 pm to
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Make it like the society at large. Don't make them work for it, just give it to them. No reason why they should get creamed on a football field for a lousy mil.



So the OP is a democrat.....

At least now I know never to read any more of his posts with any amount of seriousness anymore.
Posted by MaroonNation
StarkVegas, Mississippi, Bitch!
Member since Nov 2010
21950 posts
Posted on 9/20/12 at 1:58 pm to
I think Crimson's sentiment speaks to a large deal of the sidewalk fan base. No educated person would say something this stupid. People that actually attended their institutions realize there are way more things in play when the Alabamas play a weak OOC school than the fans entertainment. His Opinion is it is all about entertaining the Alabama football fans. They truly are the most arrogant entitled jackasses out there.
Posted by pivey14
In Your Head
Member since Mar 2012
15445 posts
Posted on 9/20/12 at 2:02 pm to
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and it's bad for college football


you couldn't be more wrong
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