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Harry Rex Vonner
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re: It's been over a month. Tennessee still cannot pinpoint a single thing Pruitt did wrong.
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I’ve never seen people argue so hard that another team’s coach wasn’t cheating.



of course you don't get it


you're Sammy Tiger


bamameister
Alabama Fan
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
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re: It's been over a month. Tennessee still cannot pinpoint a single thing Pruitt did wrong.
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Tennessee’s program is already dead. Can you really cut a corpse?



I'm glad you asked. Yes, yes it can. The cupboards were not empty and that in itself is the lifeblood of all football teams. The talent is there and channels have been opened for recruits to keep coming. About 5 years of uncertainty and 2 years of scholarship reductions will bury anyone. Ask Fulmer how he won so many Bama games?


volfan30
Atlanta Braves Fan
Member since Jun 2010
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re: It's been over a month. Tennessee still cannot pinpoint a single thing Pruitt did wrong.
Tennessee has no talent on the roster, get real.

They have zero chance of winning anything in the next 5-10 years.


bamameister
Alabama Fan
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
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re: It's been over a month. Tennessee still cannot pinpoint a single thing Pruitt did wrong.
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Tennessee has no talent on the roster, get real.

They have zero chance of winning anything in the next 5-10 years.




Sure they do. Pruitt could do that. He just could also lose to Georgia State regardless. Soon, the NCAA slow bleed will solve those feelings of ineptitude.


volfan30
Atlanta Braves Fan
Member since Jun 2010
38105 posts

re: It's been over a month. Tennessee still cannot pinpoint a single thing Pruitt did wrong.
You’re very naive if you think there is legitimate SEC talent on the roster currently or on the horizon. Pruitt never beat a single decent football team and was blown the hell out by every legitimate contender.

I haven’t been to a game since 2016. Pruitt had no chance and neither does the current mongoloid.

There is no “ineptitude,” just reality. Program is dead and likely never coming back.


SammyTiger
LSU Fan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
46368 posts

re: It's been over a month. Tennessee still cannot pinpoint a single thing Pruitt did wrong.
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of course you don't get it


I get It but I think it’s always crying about cheating until you want to cry about a school getting out from under a buyout.


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VolsUberAlles
Tennessee Fan
Member since Feb 2021
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re: It's been over a month. Tennessee still cannot pinpoint a single thing Pruitt did wrong.
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I haven’t been to a game since 2016. Pruitt had no chance and neither does the current mongoloid.

There is no “ineptitude,” just reality. Program is dead and likely never coming back.


"I haven't been to a game in five years but will pretend to be knowledgeable about the program I'm allegedly a fan of, all the while disparaging said program in an effort to look cool in front of rival fans."


cardboardboxer
New Orleans Saints Fan
Member since Apr 2012
33047 posts

re: It's been over a month. Tennessee still cannot pinpoint a single thing Pruitt did wrong.
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I’ve never seen people argue so hard that another team’s coach wasn’t cheating.



To be fair this is an unusual situation, normally programs try to minimize damage to their program via violations but Tenn leaned in and used the situation to fire a coach they couldn't afford to fire otherwise.

Is this a one off, or it is a tipping point? Have we reached a point where NCAA penalties hurt programs less than coaching buyouts? Is Tenn a trend setter, and soon we will see more programs blowing the whistle on their coach after a bad season to avoid buyouts?

Frankly if Tenn gets away with it then every program should take advantage. Find some place your coach cut a corner, even to the point of entrapment, and then once you have a bad season use it to fire said coach.

Unless of course that ruins your chances with hiring future hot shot coaches, then suddenly its not worth the risk. This is what we don't know from this situation, as Tenn hires questionable hires long before this cycle (Dooley). They hired a human boob this time around, but was that because better coaches said no or are they just idiots? Until another program tries this we don't know.

The closest we have gotten is Arky, and they did pay a price for how they fired Bret- that is why last cycle they couldn't even get a hot coordinator to say yes let alone a hot G5 head coach. But with buyouts getting so massive, eventually there is a break even point. And Arky isn't regretting their move right now as their underwhelming hire has them pointed in the right direction.

I think Auburn is a great example of a program that could have benefitted from what Tenn did: them paying Gus a huge buyout only to hire a meh G5 coach probably wasn't worth it. If Tenn succeeds, every Auburn fan should be pissed they didn't frick Gus out of his buyout. Maybe they don't get they coach they have if they went this path, but they probably could have gotten SOME G5 coach with a winning record to try to pick up pennies in front of their steam roller if they paid the next guy a good chunk of the money they gave Gus. Humans are terrible at risk assessment ("it won't happen to me I will succeed") and with coaches being so expensive maybe its time for programs to game that situation.

Usually we don't see these demarcation lines until we have hindsight, but what Tenn did was trend setting if other programs follow the trend.


SammyTiger
LSU Fan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
46368 posts

re: It's been over a month. Tennessee still cannot pinpoint a single thing Pruitt did wrong.
Ok so you’re Tennessee.

Pruitt isn’t winning like you thought, but tanking the program for a feds year is that really worse that just keeping him on for a few years till the buyout is smaller?


volfan30
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re: It's been over a month. Tennessee still cannot pinpoint a single thing Pruitt did wrong.
Lol enjoy Heupel


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cardboardboxer
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re: It's been over a month. Tennessee still cannot pinpoint a single thing Pruitt did wrong.
The honest answer is we don't know yet.

First of all we don't know what their NCAA punishment looks like. Usually the NCAA rewards programs who fires the guy behind violations, but they probably don't like the idea of being a work around for a big buyout so they could hammer Tenn to prevent this from happening again. This isn't the system working as it was designed and college administrators have a stick up their asses about that.

Secondly we don't know how the coaching market will react. Tenn might have already burned this bridge with their fan revolt the last hiring cycle, but fricking Pruitt out of his buyout could make it VERY hard to hire a hot coach other programs want the next 5-10 years. Like a Tom Herman situation where two major programs wanted him, Tenn isn't winning that kind of battle for a LONG time. But seeing as how Herman has been fired already maybe hiring top guys is overrated anyway. Texas Tech did something similar when they fricked Mike Leach out of his money and that program never bounced back from that. We will see if Tenn will.

Frankly I wouldn't want my program to take this risk. If Jimbo has a bad year pay the man his money and lets get another expensive coach to take over while the roster is still good. That is why most programs who have been recruiting like Tenn has would never do this. It used to take too long to rebuild a roster, but maybe the portal has changed that calculus and Tenn is ahead of the curve.

What is obvious is Tenn is desperate and broke and were willing to roll the dice. It could either be the best move in college sports this decade, or it could bury the program for 10 years. They felt like they had nothing to lose, and eventually we will know if it was a risk worth taking.

Imagine if it works out for them! The sport will change quickly. I could see buyouts getting smaller just so programs aren't inspired to frick over the coach, it would finally give some leverage back to ADs. Also the NCAA would have to decide if they like the roll of being a buyout shortcut right as states are forcing them to consider paying players. This move might lead to a domino effect that changes the sport forever.


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FiddleHead
Tennessee Fan
Knoxville, TN
Member since Aug 2011
13534 posts

re: It's been over a month. Tennessee still cannot pinpoint a single thing Pruitt did wrong.
Things don’t usually get leaked during an ongoing investigation correct? They said he had multiple level I and II violations. Seems unlikely they would just make those things up but I don’t know


BLG
Alabama Fan
Alabama
Member since Mar 2018
2143 posts

re: It's been over a month. Tennessee still cannot pinpoint a single thing Pruitt did wrong.
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To be fair this is an unusual situation, normally programs try to minimize damage to their program via violations but Tenn leaned in and used the situation to fire a coach they couldn't afford to fire otherwise.


which will cost them way the hell more in the long run. Some stupid people running that place.


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Rip Torn
Member since Mar 2020
255 posts

re: It's been over a month. Tennessee still cannot pinpoint a single thing Pruitt did wrong.
You sure are butt hurt over Pruitt. He was a terrible head coach. They should have just paid his buyout


Rip Torn
Member since Mar 2020
255 posts

re: It's been over a month. Tennessee still cannot pinpoint a single thing Pruitt did wrong.
It’s a very odd flex


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Smokeyone
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re: It's been over a month. Tennessee still cannot pinpoint a single thing Pruitt did wrong.
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They should have just paid his buyout


Without the recruiting/paying players scandal they do just that next year.


JackTraven
Georgia Fan
District of Colombia
Member since Aug 2016
3603 posts

re: It's been over a month. Tennessee still cannot pinpoint a single thing Pruitt did wrong.
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Pruitt will likely see $0. Nierdermeyer was paying recruits and current players. Also using runners in Memphis and GA.


Is this the #bigbanktakelittlebank dildo?


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cardboardboxer
New Orleans Saints Fan
Member since Apr 2012
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re: It's been over a month. Tennessee still cannot pinpoint a single thing Pruitt did wrong.
Which would have been the safe play. But Tenn is trying to innovate. We will have to see if it works.


Harry Rex Vonner
Louisiana Tech Fan
1939
Member since Nov 2013
15822 posts

re: It's been over a month. Tennessee still cannot pinpoint a single thing Pruitt did wrong.
you bitches have been making that excuse for over a month


that's the point of the thread


"ongoing investigation" and gulp a shot of sperm from the UT admin and UT "media"

rinse repeat

sheep

your post is shite


FiddleHead
Tennessee Fan
Knoxville, TN
Member since Aug 2011
13534 posts

re: It's been over a month. Tennessee still cannot pinpoint a single thing Pruitt did wrong.
Why are you so upset, was skoalcan your cousin or something?


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