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re: It’s absurd to say the SEC should not have expanded into Texas

Posted on 6/14/24 at 9:00 pm to
Posted by jlovel7
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
22819 posts
Posted on 6/14/24 at 9:00 pm to
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I don’t understand the backlash. It’s going to make the season that much more fun adding in the drama and tradition that both programs bring to the tab


CFB was more or less small adjustments to itself over 150 years. These are monumental changes the likes of which we’ve never seen. This sport is built on tradition.

I just would rather play auburn and Ole Miss and even Mississippi state, schools we have 100+ years of tradition with (auburn less but the passion burns hot there) than Texas and Oklahoma. Traditional school, but ones we have almost no association with. It will take a long time before we build the level of animosity we have with other SEC schools. If we ever do.
Posted by bamabaseballsec
Member since Dec 2020
2744 posts
Posted on 6/14/24 at 11:16 pm to
Long enough to know those are the numbers of an eroded fan base. I guess that’s just the best saving face you can do
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
30923 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 12:26 am to
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Long enough to know those are the numbers of an eroded fan base. I guess that’s just the best saving face you can do


So, not very long at all.

If you had been a fan for a longer time, you'd understand why Nebraska being in "top 25" in viewership is not great for them. You don't understand it was once one of the most devoted fan bases in college football, and now they are struggling.

You obviously have 0 understanding of college football history.
Posted by truth22
Member since May 2021
1813 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 12:37 am to
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We threw a life raft to the Texas schools that were drowning in that pathetic conference they were in.


what fantasy world you live in? you obviously disnt follow the courting of Texas A&M, which actually went back 20 years, or hiw pizzed Ags were when their leadership turned down the SEC in 2010.
Posted by ColoradoElkHerd
USA
Member since May 2014
3421 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 2:05 am to
Nebraska - OU was once the big nationwide telecast on Thanksgiving.

Nebraska has fallen mightily from their once lofty position. Somebody else can maybe explain why.
Posted by bamabaseballsec
Member since Dec 2020
2744 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 2:40 am to
Moving goal post idiot. You said it eroded fan base. Top 25 viewership isn’t eroded. Over 85k attendance this past year not eroded. Are you stupid or something
Posted by Old School Tex
North Carolina
Member since Jul 2021
867 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 3:36 am to
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And yet you don’t represent the whole state. Most of the state doesn’t align with your culture. You’re like Berkeley. But with more tents.


aggie you are so full of shite. Generations of Texas grads are spread through cities and towns all over the state. So many of us holding key roles in medicine, law, politics, business, engineering, etc. all over Texas.

Y’all are everywhere too, and plenty of us are intermarried.

And we’ll be filling your Dixie Chicken up with burnt orange jerseys when we invade College Station again for our little football game scheduled this fall…

Posted by MillerLiteTime
Atlanta
Member since Aug 2018
3265 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 6:53 am to
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Yes, it will overall increase because of the additions of Texas and Oklahoma, but after you then spread it out among the teams, the difference is not going to be that big. It's 2 teams on a now 16 team league.


I get your argument, but this is adding 31 million people, and rapidly growing, to our footprint while only adding two new distribution shares. Plus, the additional viewers nationwide who will want to watch a Texas/UGA game.

For perspective, Ole Miss and MSU both take a share but only add about 1.5 million people each. The Texas market is going to be something like 30% of the total SEC market.

If you owned a business and could hire two new salesmen who would increase your revenue by 30% but were willing to be paid the same as someone with only 5% of your sales, would you say no?
Posted by MillerLiteTime
Atlanta
Member since Aug 2018
3265 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 7:14 am to
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don't know what better evidence could exist, and you want to pretend like it's not happening.


Nebraska’s run of bad seasons has zero to do with fan or booster support. If anything their boosters are stepping up more than ever to get out of this rut. In other words, the exact opposite of Vandy who likes collecting checks like a lazy rich kid on an inherited trust fund.
Posted by rtr23242526
Member since Dec 2022
3295 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 9:19 am to
Never should have broke up the conferences.
Big 8 ..southwest.
Sec


Big east acc

Big 10 pac 8
.way more fun
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
30923 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 11:12 am to
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Moving goal post idiot. You said it eroded fan base. Top 25 viewership isn’t eroded. Over 85k attendance this past year not eroded. Are you stupid or something


Then why are they downsizing their stadium to 70k?
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
58888 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 11:14 am to
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We had to take Texas and aTm to keep up, and we should be glad to have them.


Seems legit

Would like to have picked up Rice and Tulane tho
Posted by PerrillouxToTexas
Member since Sep 2022
7116 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 11:16 am to
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Then why are they downsizing their stadium to 70k?


Shrinking middle class, exorbitant ticket prices, less sports fans in GenZ. I imagine a lot of schools will downsize in the coming decades.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
58888 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 11:20 am to
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I imagine a lot of schools will downsize in the coming decades.


Canary in the coal mine of the future of college athletics.

NFL / NBA Lite will fail
Old school fans will die out

Look at boxing and horse racing 100 years ago as example. Fantasy and gambling saved baseball but players have more value than teams among the young.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
30923 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 11:26 am to
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Nebraska’s run of bad seasons has zero to do with fan or booster support. If anything their boosters are stepping up more than ever to get out of this rut. In other words, the exact opposite of Vandy who likes collecting checks like a lazy rich kid on an inherited trust fund.


You got it backwards. Fan support isn't the cause of bad seasons, bad seasons are the reason for the lack of fan support.

The fact boosters are required to "step up" just goes to highlight how much the program has declined.


Losing ways put Huskers’ record sellout streak in jeopardy

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Why? Because the streak is a point of pride for the program. The Huskers won at least nine games from 1969-2001, set an NCAA record with 35 straight bowl appearances from 1969-2003 and won five national titles between 1970-97. The sellout streak is the last connection to the days Nebraska was among the college game’s elite.



Feit: It’s Time to Let the Sellout Streak Die - There’s no dignity in continuing to prop it up artificially

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But the reality is the Streak - once a symbol of loyalty created and maintained by a devoted fan base - is now like a beloved 18-year-old family pet: deaf, blind, and unable to move without being carried.

We think we are honoring the Streak by continuing to prop it up, but the real dignity would be in letting it go peacefully.


Nebraska AD confident sellout streak will last through 2021 season

Nebraska Football: Latest sellout streak ploy sparks new debate

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That ploy? selling about $21,000 worth of tickets to one person on a bulk rate that comes out to about $10 per ticket. Of course, that’s quite a bit less than people normally pay for tickets. Tickets these days, if they’re not purchased from resellers, are about $75 apiece. There’s also the fact that selling 2,100 tickets to one person seems a bit like cheating when it comes to continuing a streak that’s reached 386 games.


And of course, the final solution - downsize the stadium. Which they already did by "widening the seats" in some sections.

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Final stadium seating? 70k. Down from over 86k just a few years ago.

If this happens to a blue blood in a state that literally has nothing else going on other than fricking and getting drunk(I personally had fun when I was there for some reason), then it can happen anywhere.



Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
30923 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 11:28 am to
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Shrinking middle class, exorbitant ticket prices, less sports fans in GenZ. I imagine a lot of schools will downsize in the coming decades.


The are selling tickets for $10 each.

But I do agree it's all basically a ripoff at this point.
Posted by bamabaseballsec
Member since Dec 2020
2744 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 11:38 am to
Lots of teams are dropping stadium size(some of its due to in game attendance apathy some is to combat said apathy with actual seats instead of bleachers. Even if they are 70k is big(especially for a team that hasn’t seen the post season in ten years) not depleted. Top 25 viewership is actually super high for 11 Neilson rated games(I’m assuming you don’t understand neilson ratings as well). Real question are you stupid(not ignorant bc you have access to the info) or just full of so much conviction you’ll die on the hill of stupidity
This post was edited on 6/15/24 at 11:43 am
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27837 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 11:38 am to
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It was a short-term win in that it helped make SEC Network more appealing at the end of the "big TV market" era


Was it?

Sure, ESPN bumped up their TV revenue but we didn't get a extra penny from the CBS and their deal was a huge windfall for the network.

BTW both Kansas City and St Louis don't put up good numbers when it comes to CFB viewership.
Posted by bamabaseballsec
Member since Dec 2020
2744 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 11:39 am to
Top 25 viewership, still over 80k before the reduction. How have the fans left?
Posted by bamabaseballsec
Member since Dec 2020
2744 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 11:45 am to
Final stadium seating? 70k. Down from over 86k just a few years ago

You’re the kind of guy who sees high tide and shouts look global warmings melting all the ice caps aren’t you?
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