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Posted on 9/21/23 at 4:44 pm to Hback
This is the stuff I’m talking about when I say that I’m not sure it matters what comes after Saban for my alma mater. I just don’t see this sport surviving without great reforms.
And Alabama is likely to fare better than most because of existing robust fan donor support compared to most schools. What’s the point of following this sport as a mid-tier P5 school when you’re actively getting priced out of competitive viability.
I don’t see the sport faring well when that disengagement from the sport happens for many fanbases. I just don’t think Alabama, Georgia, Ohio State, Michigan, USC, Texas, Oklahoma, Florida State, Clemson, etc can drive the interest that secures the big television paydays. You gotta have all those schools who are looking to make their first Rose or Sugar Bowl in a generation watching too.
And Alabama is likely to fare better than most because of existing robust fan donor support compared to most schools. What’s the point of following this sport as a mid-tier P5 school when you’re actively getting priced out of competitive viability.
I don’t see the sport faring well when that disengagement from the sport happens for many fanbases. I just don’t think Alabama, Georgia, Ohio State, Michigan, USC, Texas, Oklahoma, Florida State, Clemson, etc can drive the interest that secures the big television paydays. You gotta have all those schools who are looking to make their first Rose or Sugar Bowl in a generation watching too.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 4:46 pm to Hback
If I was a recruit I’d pay 5k to not have to go visit College Station. Maybe more.
This post was edited on 9/21/23 at 5:02 pm
Posted on 9/21/23 at 4:46 pm to Diego Ricardo
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What’s the point of following this sport as a mid-tier P5 school when you’re actively getting priced out of competitive viability.
How is this different than prior to NIL? Mid tier schools missed out on the same talent. People still watch and go to games. Take Tennessee for example.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 4:51 pm to Hback
shite been happening even back in early 2000's. Leaving paper back in recruits hotel room.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 4:54 pm to Gaston
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No, seems like NIL is attached to a school (all scholarship football players make $X/yr is what the schools push). My son is going through the recruiting process now…but it’s real hazy about where the money comes from.
Might want to check out Children's Hospital.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 5:02 pm to atlantarebs
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How is this different than prior to NIL? Mid tier schools missed out on the same talent. People still watch and go to games. Take Tennessee for example.
Scale that can be achieved by putting it above board cannot be underestimated. People think of SMU or Alabama’s big red handed pay for play schemes but the reality is that most players were getting bought by smaller sums.
The bag man game has shifted from a local small business owner putting up mommas in a rental property and handing out 100-dollar handshakes to large corporations that are handing out borderline pro athlete yearly contract payouts to some 18yo athletes.
If you don’t see how that makes it worse for Ole Miss, Mississippi State, or anyone else on that fringe below the regional powers then I don’t know what to tell you.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 5:05 pm to Diego Ricardo
Once Nike and others triangulate how they will approach collegiate NIL, that’s a whole other bag of worms. You can’t get this athlete because he’s signed with Nike as a HS senior and will only attend a Nike aligned AD.
Edit: and this one is better…your existing apparel sponsorship has the leverage of much of your roster being on their payroll so contract negotiations become a gamble with the transfer portal gobbling up your prime talent.
Edit: and this one is better…your existing apparel sponsorship has the leverage of much of your roster being on their payroll so contract negotiations become a gamble with the transfer portal gobbling up your prime talent.
This post was edited on 9/21/23 at 5:11 pm
Posted on 9/21/23 at 5:13 pm to Quicksilver
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It's incredible to me how often people bring up "capping" NIL earnings. You are essentially saying that an adult should only make so much money off of their popularity because they are play a sport in college. No other college student is held to that standard.
As long as I never have to hear more stories lamenting another "poor young naive FB player" being taken advantage of by unscrupulous advisors, friends, family etc. since they're adults I'm good with it...
Posted on 9/21/23 at 5:26 pm to Hback
You'd have to pay me $5000 to visit fricking Ohio State.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 5:34 pm to Quicksilver
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It's incredible to me how often people bring up "capping" NIL earnings. You are essentially saying that an adult should only make so much money off of their popularity because they are play a sport in college. No other college student is held to that standard.
There is a reason professional sports leagues are not unfettered free markets on the labor side: it’s bad for competition and competition drives fan interest.
I’m not sure how college football can square this conundrum while still being something that resembles what people enjoy about the sport.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 5:57 pm to pankReb
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"become common" is the most hilarious part as if this wasn't already an issues for decades.
Step 1 : Go to TAMU for free gold Trans Am
Step 2 : Sign with SMU - Death Penalty optional
Posted on 9/21/23 at 6:00 pm to BuckI
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$ec.
How much do you think a good kicker is worth?
Posted on 9/21/23 at 6:22 pm to Wildcat1996
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Kiribati Oceania 1,989 2023 1,607 2021 1,765 2021
Who the frick is this
ETA island nation of 119,000 people. GDP of like 270 million
If I won the powerball I wonder if I could just buy the entire nation and call it deltalandia.
This post was edited on 9/21/23 at 6:32 pm
Posted on 9/21/23 at 6:38 pm to deltaland
It is interesting to me that now that players are getting NIL $’s in all sorts of unfettered ways we hear,…..must have rules! Must have oversight! Must have limits!
But why did we not hear these same things when coaches were paid insane amounts of money, ADs and admins all making ridiculous salaries, institutions building crazy facilities (music recording studio for football players…).
Hmmmm, I wonder why?
But why did we not hear these same things when coaches were paid insane amounts of money, ADs and admins all making ridiculous salaries, institutions building crazy facilities (music recording studio for football players…).
Hmmmm, I wonder why?
Posted on 9/21/23 at 6:41 pm to FlyDownTheField83
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It is interesting to me that now that players are getting NIL $’s in all sorts of unfettered ways we hear,…..must have rules! Must have oversight! Must have limits! But why did we not hear these same things when coaches were paid insane amounts of money, ADs and admins all making ridiculous salaries, institutions building crazy facilities (music recording studio for football players…). Hmmmm, I wonder why?
Because coaches are not directly responsible for the winning and losing. Also paying one elite coaching staff 15 million a year is chump change compared to what it is going to cost to field an elite 85 man roster.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 6:50 pm to Diego Ricardo
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Also paying one elite coaching staff 15 million a year is chump change compared to what it is going to cost to field an elite 85 man roster.
Oh no Alabama has to compete fairly on an open market.
Do you not hear yourself?
Have you been to Tuscaloosa over the past 10 years?
It’s grow immensely. Almost entirely because of the success of your football team. Your brand is why kids from New Jersey are so willing to drop 200k on an Alabama degree.
Prior to NIL (yes people still got paid) players placed more emphasis on the coach, and with saban in his prime, you had a great advantage. Now, you have to pay the players what they are worth (and saban in getting older) you are bitching and whining.
Get a clue
This post was edited on 9/21/23 at 6:51 pm
Posted on 9/21/23 at 6:54 pm to atlantarebs
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Get a clue
Amen
Posted on 9/21/23 at 6:55 pm to Hback
Lol frick that. I'd be the worst AD ever.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 6:56 pm to Hback
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Congress
yes, that’s exactly what is needed. Government involvement.
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