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re: Is this a solution for the CFP?
Posted on 12/5/25 at 10:15 am to MNW
Posted on 12/5/25 at 10:15 am to MNW
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Beating the 11th ranked team at home is barely better than beating UMass on the road?
As mentioned the points listed are just half-baked at this point and would require some more thought. Just outlining the general idea.
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Posted on 12/5/25 at 10:16 am to Jack Daniel
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I think what you’re describing is the BCS computer rankings
Yeah, more or less.
Posted on 12/5/25 at 10:17 am to HTX Horn
So did they do the math and figure out how this would look today? Sounds good on the surface but what would the result be and does it look reasonable once you step back?
Posted on 12/5/25 at 10:19 am to Naked Bootleg
I would add a Bowl win would get you 1 point for the start of the next season. A loss would start you out at 0 points. So it wouldn't hurt you as -1 point the next season. That would give teams incentive for players not to opt out and make the bowl games more exciting . For the 2 Bowl games that a few teams will play in the playoffs is 1 point. So we take Texas as example they won there 1st Bowl game but lost the Cotton Bowl. So Texas would have 1 point for next season. Only 2 teams would have 2 points for next season like Ohio state and Notre Dame last year. National Championship Game isn't given No points! So there 36 regular Bowl Games and 6 New Year 6 Bowl Games in the Playoffs. That's 42 Bowl games total. So 21 teams will have 1 point to start the next season.
This post was edited on 12/5/25 at 10:21 am
Posted on 12/5/25 at 10:20 am to PeleofAnalytics
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So did they do the math and figure out how this would look today? Sounds good on the surface but what would the result be and does it look reasonable once you step back?
Nah this was just a call-in to the radio show; the hosts really liked it but didn't apply any math to current teams. Would be interesting to do so and see what it'd look like.
Posted on 12/5/25 at 10:21 am to HTX Horn
First tell the g6 to pound sand. Yes, they may revolt and refuse to play the P4 teams but who cares.
Second tell ND to join a P4 conference or join the g6. Refuse to schedule games with them and see how quick they join a conference.
Third have every P4 team play 9 conferences games and 3 OOC (1 from each of the other 3 P4 conferences each season).
The only reason playing a tougher schedule is penalizing a team like Texas this year is because the g6 is guaranteed a playoff spot and possibly 2 this year. If not for that Texas would get in.
No guarantee for a conference champion just the best 12 in the country at the end of the season. If it happens to be a conference champion so be it and weight winning the CCG.
There is nothing whatsoever that the g6 provides that is valuable to the CFB or the playoffs.
Second tell ND to join a P4 conference or join the g6. Refuse to schedule games with them and see how quick they join a conference.
Third have every P4 team play 9 conferences games and 3 OOC (1 from each of the other 3 P4 conferences each season).
The only reason playing a tougher schedule is penalizing a team like Texas this year is because the g6 is guaranteed a playoff spot and possibly 2 this year. If not for that Texas would get in.
No guarantee for a conference champion just the best 12 in the country at the end of the season. If it happens to be a conference champion so be it and weight winning the CCG.
There is nothing whatsoever that the g6 provides that is valuable to the CFB or the playoffs.
Posted on 12/5/25 at 10:22 am to HTX Horn
the computer keeps Texas out of it too. AI is subjective and sees a team that lost to the two best teams in the country already and Florida.
Posted on 12/5/25 at 10:22 am to Reeves40
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I would add a Bowl win would get you 1 point for the start of the next season.
I like it, would give a reason to play the bowls. Maybe a win is 2 points and 1 point for participation? Either way it at least gives an incentive.
Posted on 12/5/25 at 10:23 am to HTX Horn
Same credit for beating an FBS as beating LSU?
Plus, if “dynamic” your score drops when you beat someone.
Plus, if “dynamic” your score drops when you beat someone.
Posted on 12/5/25 at 10:25 am to JayAg
quote:Wait, you don’t like hearing “they can’t run the ball” as a reason to downgrade a team? Or “they went for it on 4th down one time” as a data point to move a team up?
And have a rubric that is public and transparent on what is being considered.
Posted on 12/5/25 at 10:25 am to HTX Horn
There was no need to overhaul the BCS the way they did. All they needed to do was add the 12 team playoffs to those rankings. People were saying it at the time.
Posted on 12/5/25 at 10:26 am to TideWarrior
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First tell the g6 to pound sand.
Agree on all points in your post (thought not convinced Texas is a playoff team regardless). Only issue is that there's still this beauty contest every year. I really feel like SEC teams are getting screwed. There are at least 6-8 teams in SEC that no one from another conference wants to play right now. There's no other conference that's even close. This is where I think some sort of point system would really level the field. That and omit the G6 like you said.
Posted on 12/5/25 at 10:29 am to HTX Horn
Texas is like Alabama this season in a way. They are capable and shown glimpses to be one of the best but not consistent over the season. Still though both are better than any g6 team just like Vandy and Miami.
Posted on 12/5/25 at 10:29 am to HTX Horn
I like that 2 point Bowl win and 1 point Bowl participation. That will give 42 teams at least 1 point for the next season. That's 17 teams that are not in the Top 25. The G6 works in March Madness because it's basketball. It doesn't work in football. Once in a while you will have a team like App State beat Michigan in a last second field goal or TD. But how many years has that been. Realistically college football will go like the NFL with 2 leagues SEC and BIG and the ACC, Big 12 and ND will be divided between the 2.
This post was edited on 12/5/25 at 10:33 am
Posted on 12/5/25 at 10:31 am to Pvt Hudson
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Plus, if “dynamic” your score drops when you beat someone.
Again the point system outlined is half-baked an requires refinement.
By "dynamic" it just means that in Week 3 you play a team ranked #4, win, and are awarded X points. But it turns out that team was overrated when you played them and falls out of rankings; you still get a point for the W but it has less value than you thought it would have at the time you beat them.
Perfect example is Ohio State beating Texas that was ranked #1 at the time. Texas was overrated and fell out of top 25 for a week, before climbing back to top 15. Point value for that win would slide accordingly.
Posted on 12/5/25 at 10:35 am to TideWarrior
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Texas is like Alabama this season in a way. They are capable and shown glimpses to be one of the best but not consistent over the season. Still though both are better than any g6 team just like Vandy and Miami.
Agree. Texas was very Jeckyl and Hyde all year though. Struggle vs. San Jose St, dominate OU, OT vs. Kentucky/MSU. So it's no crime they're missing CFP. That said no way a G6 should take spot of Vandy, etc.
Posted on 12/5/25 at 11:14 am to HTX Horn
The SEC going to a nine Conference games is going to screw the SEC anyway you look at it. There going be more losses than this year. Which will be lower rankings that’s why I think they need to go to 2014 playoff just like they do in the FCS. They can play the games in the Bowls. If not, you may have one SEC team in the playoffs. The rest will be big 10 or big 12 teams. God forbid the ACC will get teams in. I think you all underestimate the hatred for the SEC conference around the country.
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