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re: Is the tide starting to turn on the Tide's chances at a rematch?

Posted on 11/23/11 at 11:13 am to
Posted by Festus
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Member since Nov 2009
85713 posts
Posted on 11/23/11 at 11:13 am to
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Its a pretty simple concept. The idea that home field advantage is the reason to keep Bama out of a rematch because they had a decided advanage is false.


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There is statistical data that prove that winning the coin toss in overtime gives a decided advantage to the team that chooses to go on Defense first (see LSU). It is the reason a team like TCU went for 2 instead of going for overtime. The percentages of converting a 2 point conversion are greater than the percentages of kicking the extra point and winning/losing the coin toss in overtime

Why are you ignoring the statiscal data regarding home field advantage? Post that data.
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You get more advantage winning the coin toss in overtime than you do playing on your home field.


Dumbest post ever by a gump, and believe me, when I tell you that's saying something. (I'm sure you have no data to link that coin toss gives more advantage than home field, or do you??)
Posted by RollTideRockStar
Member since Jan 2010
4477 posts
Posted on 11/23/11 at 11:14 am to
Hey Max,

Found your grandma. She's says go home little man. She disappointed in you.

Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 11/23/11 at 11:14 am to
i can't wait to see the meltdown on this board when OSU jumps bama after beating OU.
Posted by arty
Member since Nov 2010
927 posts
Posted on 11/23/11 at 11:14 am to
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Its a pretty simple concept. The idea that home field advantage is the reason to keep Bama out of a rematch because they had a decided advanage is false.

There is statistical data that prove that winning the coin toss in overtime gives a decided advantage to the team that chooses to go on Defense first (see LSU). It is the reason a team like TCU went for 2 instead of going for overtime. The percentages of converting a 2 point conversion are greater than the percentages of kicking the extra point and winning/losing the coin toss in overtime.


You might as well quit. Corndogs don't have enough fingers and toes to start doing complex math like percentages.
Posted by JB Bama
Tuscaloosa, AL
Member since Sep 2008
2670 posts
Posted on 11/23/11 at 11:14 am to
Coin Toss winner has an advantage in overtime.

Why is this a hard concept to grasp? Whoever wins goes on defense first and gets to react. It's an equal advantage to getting the ball first in overtime in the NFL (oldstyle).

Coin Toss matters
This post was edited on 11/23/11 at 11:15 am
Posted by TotalYatMove
Member since Oct 2010
1687 posts
Posted on 11/23/11 at 11:14 am to
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There is statistical data that prove that winning the coin toss in overtime gives a decided advantage to the team that chooses to go on Defense first (see LSU). It is the reason a team like TCU went for 2 instead of going for overtime. The percentages of converting a 2 point conversion are greater than the percentages of kicking the extra point and winning/losing the coin toss in overtime.


How often does the home team win? Is that included in your math? Where did you get those percentages by the way?

Also, you do realize that 52/48 is considered a statistical dead heat? It's so close, that it would not even be considered if someone were trying to predict the winner of a college football overtime.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
107652 posts
Posted on 11/23/11 at 11:16 am to
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Coin Toss


Posted by Festus
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Member since Nov 2009
85713 posts
Posted on 11/23/11 at 11:16 am to
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Coin Toss winner has an advantage in overtime. Why is this a hard concept to grasp? Whoever wins goes on defense first and gets to react. It's an equal advantage to getting the ball first in overtime in the NFL (oldstyle). Coin Toss matters


Hold on, that's wasn't your premise. You stated that it was MORE of an advantage than home field. Post a link that supports that premise, or face the abuse you deserve.
Posted by TotalYatMove
Member since Oct 2010
1687 posts
Posted on 11/23/11 at 11:16 am to
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Once you go black...


You could have just said "Oh, my bad. I was just talking out my arse." But, I'll accept your terrible joke instead.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
86902 posts
Posted on 11/23/11 at 11:16 am to
Jesus could you be a bigger pussy?

This is without a doubt the most pathetic excuse for Bama's loss I've seen. Congrat.
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81329 posts
Posted on 11/23/11 at 11:16 am to
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shite we're all happy. Only gotta play twelve games to get to the NCG. It worked out perfectly.


yeah that extra week to get rusty and fat while tuning Saban out is going to do wonders. He's already terrible after byes and in bowls, now we add a bye to the front of bowl prep. Saban might find a way to lose this bowl game twice.
Posted by LsuTool
Member since Oct 2009
35485 posts
Posted on 11/23/11 at 11:17 am to
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can't wait to see the meltdown on this board when OSU jumps bama after beating OU


I cant decide what would be better. OSU jumping Bama or Miles beating them again. Either way, it's gonna be a fun couple months.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
107652 posts
Posted on 11/23/11 at 11:17 am to
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. It's an equal advantage to getting the ball first in overtime in the NFL


Oh, and by the way, this is not statistically correct. Sorry.


But, still, coin toss?
Posted by arty
Member since Nov 2010
927 posts
Posted on 11/23/11 at 11:17 am to
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Also, you do realize that 52/48 is considered a statistical dead heat? It's so close, that it would not even be considered if someone were trying to predict the winner of a college football overtime.


Statistical dead heat? Depends on the sample size.
Posted by crimsonsaint
Member since Nov 2009
37471 posts
Posted on 11/23/11 at 11:18 am to
It really is a sweet deal. Avoid the risk of injuries in the SECC and relax for the BCSCG. That's how Bama rolls.
Posted by JB Bama
Tuscaloosa, AL
Member since Sep 2008
2670 posts
Posted on 11/23/11 at 11:19 am to
Winning the coin toss gives you a 52% shot at winning the game. If you compare every college overtime game. It's actually a 2.12% advantage in the first overtime drops to 2% in the second.

As for home field, the first article I pulled was this one with research from 1987-2007 (20 years).

In this study Bama actually had a negative home field advantage over that time.

HFA
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 11/23/11 at 11:19 am to
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That's how Bama gets fat.


Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 11/23/11 at 11:20 am to
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JB Bama


stop dude. you're embarrassing yourself
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
107652 posts
Posted on 11/23/11 at 11:20 am to
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Winning the coin toss gives you a 52% shot at winning the game. If you compare every college overtime game. It's actually a 2.12% advantage in the first overtime drops to 2% in the second.



I was speaking to your point about it being the same percentage wise as the NFL.



Coin toss.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
121640 posts
Posted on 11/23/11 at 11:20 am to
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It really is a sweet deal. Avoid the risk of injuries in the SECC and relax for the BCSCG. That's how Bama rolls.


crimsonsaint, I am liking you more and more.

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