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re: Is South Carolina better than Georgia?

Posted on 9/19/12 at 2:02 pm to
Posted by LewDawg
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 9/19/12 at 2:02 pm to
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LB- Slight edge to UGA. UGA has more talent; we have all seniors.


WTF kind of rationale is this?!? That just damn stupid.
Posted by Bombblonde
Member since May 2012
666 posts
Posted on 9/19/12 at 2:03 pm to
Lou holtz catches a lot a flack for being a notorious usce/ND homer. Cant say I blame him he just takes it a tad too far.
This post was edited on 9/19/12 at 2:03 pm
Posted by Damn Good Dawg
Member since Feb 2011
47325 posts
Posted on 9/19/12 at 2:03 pm to
i mean they can have seniors when we have, you know, better players... who also happen to mostly be seniors and juniors
This post was edited on 9/19/12 at 2:04 pm
Posted by madmaxvol
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 9/19/12 at 2:04 pm to
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Nobody even knew SC had a football team until Steve Spurrier showed up in Columbia.


Georgia was well aware of USCe....they are the reason that Herschel only has one Heisman Trophy.
Posted by Damn Good Dawg
Member since Feb 2011
47325 posts
Posted on 9/19/12 at 2:06 pm to
george rogers is a fricking fraud!!!

but yea, not to take away from him but he also had that lovely no freshman winning precedent on his side
Posted by ugasickem
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 9/19/12 at 2:07 pm to
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but yea, not to take away from him but he also had that lovely no freshman winning precedent on his side


This.
Posted by LewDawg
Member since May 2009
76568 posts
Posted on 9/19/12 at 2:12 pm to
I couldn't help but laugh at that awesome analysis
Posted by That One
Northern Virginia
Member since Jul 2004
6029 posts
Posted on 9/19/12 at 2:12 pm to
This fricker just won't retire!!!
Posted by SpringBokCock
Columbia, SC
Member since Oct 2003
3191 posts
Posted on 9/19/12 at 2:46 pm to
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quote:
LB- Slight edge to UGA. UGA has more talent; we have all seniors.



WTF kind of rationale is this?!? That just damn stupid.


What's stupid is you didn't understand the significance of having a senior dominated lineup. UGA only has 2 seniors (out of 8 players) on the 2-deep at linebacker. I gave UGA the edge overall based on talent, but pointed out that USC's starting linebackers (including the spur) are all seniors (5 of 6 overall).

It should be obvious even to the meanest intelligence. Seniors have more experience, more physical and mental maturity, use better technique, make fewer mistakes, understand the defense better, read the offense better, and are better leaders. Those are not "measurables" but they are huge factors on the field.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
88705 posts
Posted on 9/19/12 at 2:49 pm to
By your "logic" Joe cox shouldve been an all American as a 5th year senior. If you're good, you're good. Jarvis, tree, Herrera, gilliard, and Robinson are better than sc's and its not real close.
Posted by SpringBokCock
Columbia, SC
Member since Oct 2003
3191 posts
Posted on 9/19/12 at 2:57 pm to
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By your "logic" Joe cox shouldve been an all American as a 5th year senior. If you're good, you're good. Jarvis, tree, Herrera, gilliard, and Robinson are better than sc's and its not real close.


No -- using Joe Cox simply highlights UGA's poor quarterback development. You see the same thing with Aaron Murray -- no improvement from year to year. A better example on your team might be Kwame Geathers -- or Clowney on ours.

As to linebackers, fine, you convinced me. I'll argue it the way y'all do. USC's linebackers are both more experienced and more talented.

I'll give you Jarvis Jones as the best -- he is this year's Melvin Ingram.

After that, Shaq Wilson, Reginald Bowens and Devonte Holloman are better than any other linebacker on UGA's roster.
Posted by Damn Good Dawg
Member since Feb 2011
47325 posts
Posted on 9/19/12 at 3:01 pm to
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USC's linebackers are both more experienced and more talented.

Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
100000 posts
Posted on 9/19/12 at 3:03 pm to
Georgia doesn't play anyone. Of course they look better than us.

They looked better than us the past two years as well.
Posted by BloodRunsRed&Black
Dalton, GA
Member since Oct 2004
520 posts
Posted on 9/19/12 at 3:07 pm to
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Georgia doesn't play anyone


Really?

Buffalo
Mizzou
FAU

or

Vandy
ECU
UAB

I don't think your assertion holds water. Our schedule is easier, but at this point in time that's a stupid argument.

As for looking better in pervious years, I agree, we have and you still won. Doesn't mean that Lou Holtz is not a blithering idiot.
This post was edited on 9/19/12 at 3:09 pm
Posted by dallasga6
Scrap Metal Magnate...
Member since Mar 2009
26363 posts
Posted on 9/19/12 at 3:10 pm to
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UGA's poor quarterback development.




David Greene 2nd winningest QB in CFB History...

D.J. Shockley Won 11 games & a SEC Championship in his one year...

Matt Stafford... No 1 NFL draft pick...

Joe Cox...sucked

A. Murray from 6 wins as a FR to 10 wins, as a So., will win at least 12 as a JR. Will break all of UGA's QB records by the end of the year. If he comes back for '13 will break every major SEC record for a QB except for Greene's win record...
This post was edited on 9/19/12 at 3:12 pm
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
100000 posts
Posted on 9/19/12 at 3:12 pm to
So how do you gather that SC is not better than UGA?

We have a better defense, and our offense is clicking with our BACKUP QB. The only real playmaker y'all have on D is JJ, and nobody is really all that worried about Gurley.

Aaron Murray might be good, but he's good for an INT or two.

Oh I'm sorry, I meant "gifts".
Posted by Volsboozewomen
I'm a dude
Member since Sep 2011
1685 posts
Posted on 9/19/12 at 3:12 pm to
Neither team is decisively better than the other. I think UGA is slightly better all around, but the game between the two will be a very close one.
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
100000 posts
Posted on 9/19/12 at 3:13 pm to
quote:

Neither team is decisively better than the other.


I can agree with this.

quote:

I think UGA is slightly better all around,


You lost me here.
Posted by JStanDawgFan
Evans, Ga
Member since Jul 2012
3987 posts
Posted on 9/19/12 at 3:16 pm to
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No -- using Joe Cox simply highlights UGA's poor quarterback development.


If you truly believe that, I feel sorry for you and you should be wearing a soft helmet.

That poor development includes the SEC all time winningest QB (formally the NCAA before Colt McCoy), a #1 overall draft pick, and multiple SEC championship winners. (still waiting for Spurrier to have one he "develops" at USC)

quote:

You see the same thing with Aaron Murray -- no improvement from year to year.



YEAR TEAM CMP ATT PCT YDS AVG TD LNG INT RAT
2012
UGA
51 80 63.8 842 10.5 8 67 2 180.2
2011
UGA
238 403 59.1 3149 7.8 35 80 14 146.4
2010
UGA
209 342 61.1 3049 8.9 24 66 8 154.5



The mere fact that Murray is on pace to become the all time leading passer in SEC history would qualify as "improvement" from year to year. But don't let facts get in the way of a good message board dick measuring contest. Simple fact is USC and UGA square off on Oct. 6th. Let it play out.
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
100000 posts
Posted on 9/19/12 at 3:19 pm to
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But don't let facts get in the way of a good message board dick measuring contest.


Better lay that shite down on the table then, because I will talk shite up until, during, and after the game. Win or lose.
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