re: Is Notre Dame screwed because of 21-0?

I guess I'll buh-fuh a donkey, or whatever that Auburn-grad's wife name is. No lose weekend, really.

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If ND does get in over OU with both winning out the committee is a god damn joke and I don't see this system lasting long at all

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In the scenario where Oklahoma and Notre Dame are vying for the final spot I think it would be a very close call so I couldn't agree that either choice would be a travesty.

It would actually be interesting to see how voters weight the different factors:

Notre Dame: best loss by far
but no conference championship (and even worse is if the committee considers their loose association with ACC which would have them as a 2nd team after behind Clemson to some degree)

Oklahoma: P5 conference championship and arguably would have beaten more high quality opponents*
but with that horrible Texas loss

*Another subplot would be the actual "quality W" weight the committee will consider teams like Temple and Navy.




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Also, the OP makes a valid point about the similarity to the Alabama-Oklahoma St debate since one team's only loss is to #1 in a game that could have gone either way vs another team that has a slightly stronger resume aside from a very ugly loss.

we're confused... what's the rematch?

Are you referring to Notre Dame and Clemson?

By the end of the season the only good win there could be Oklahoma State

TCU is already 18... has their two star players gone. Will soon be validated as irrelevant. Baylor lost the only game they have played this year against a team that is over .500.

Big 12 is overrated as hell.

I assume the OP is first talking about the similarity to the Alabama-Oklahoma St debate since:

Notre Dame's only loss is to #1 in a game that could have gone either way

vs Oklahoma that has a slightly stronger resume but with an extremely ugly loss.



I suppose, that it could also likely set up a #1 Clemson vs #4 ND rematch.


However, I gather the point is about an imagined backlash against the idea of a close loss to #1 vs a bad loss being the deciding factor instead of conference championship and more Top25 wins.


For what it's worth, I don't think there would be any backlash like that and ND would likely get chosen just like Alabama did.

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common opponent will be Texas. 38-3 vs. 17-24

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not relevant. texas who played UT was not the same team who played ND

Oklahoma vs Texas : Sooners lose 17-24 to a 4-6 Longhorn team

Notre Dame vs Texas : Irish spank Longhorns 38-3


Are you seriously arguing Oklahoma will get in over Notre Dame if they both have just 1 loss at season end? What drugs are you on? I might like to get such absurd visions.

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Well the consensus in the media since 1/9/12 seems to be that even though Bama was the better team and proved it, they should have never been given the chance

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Melt - day 1,409.

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On the other hand, do most Gumps want to take a chance in the CFP again with either BGB or Urban? They don't want to take that chance again. Big Game Bob owns you. Urban has the most recent victory on you. And this year's ND isn't the same one you steam rolled in 2012

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Good God are you that stupid. First off, every Bama fan's Christmas wish is to play OU in the semi and OSU in the final. The perfect revenge scenario. Second, ND would be a major let down but we'll take whoever they put us against seriously. We don't want to overlook anyone like last year.

Not this.

They will not have beaten 3 top 15 teams in a row