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re: Is Kiffin not just the same thing as Brian Kelly?
Posted on 1/21/26 at 11:35 am to 3down10
Posted on 1/21/26 at 11:35 am to 3down10
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No, if he decides to take another job, he'll take the minimum amount possible, like $200k. If some school came along and offered him 13 million, that would just let LSU off the hook. They won't do that, they'll make LSU pay the difference.
So he would take a less prominant job, with lower expectations rather than a high pressure job making the same amount of money. Path of least resistance
quote:correct, his desire is not there
But he doesn't even need to do that unless he wants.
quote:Oh so you are saying he could go to a great program at a discount!!! because LSU will cover the rest. He is even more desireable than I thought!
Kind of like when Kiffin was the OC at Alabama. His salary was very low because USC was still paying him millions after he got fired. Anything more Alabama paid him would just reduce the payments from USC.
quote:Oh, you are trolling, I guess I don;t spend enough time on this board to have learned the posters yet
Neither Kelly or Kiffin have shown themselves to be good coaches.
This post was edited on 1/21/26 at 11:37 am
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Posted on 1/21/26 at 11:39 am to Vulcan Materials
Kelly is better on paper. He’s objectively accomplished more than Kiffin. 6 NY6 bowls and an SEC championship and national championship appearance.
This post was edited on 1/21/26 at 11:42 am
Posted on 1/21/26 at 11:39 am to ThePoo
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So he would take a less prominant job, with lower expectations rather than a high pressure job making the same amount of money.
Yes, because you stupid fricks are paying for it no matter what he does. You're currently paying over $25 million per year for HC's and that will continue for the next 5 years.
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correct, his desire is not there
Don't blame him, I'd sit on my arse for 12+ million a year too.
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Oh so you are saying he could go to a great program at a discount!!! because LSU will cover the rest
It doesn't matter where he goes from the best school in the country to siting on his arse, LSU is paying for it.
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Oh, you are trolling, I guess I don;t spend enough time on this board to have learned the posters yet
Same thing LSU fans claimed when you hired Brian Kelly and I said it wasn't a good hire. In order for Brian Kelly to met the expectations of LSU fans, he was going to need to be a different coach than he had been. And the same is true for Kiffin.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 11:47 am to 3down10
quote:Does not want to work hard got it
Yes, because you stupid fricks are paying for it no matter what he does. You're currently paying over $25 million per year for HC's and that will continue for the next 5 years.
Kiffin has guaranteed money as well, he took 3 recruting flights yesterday. Not sure Kelly ever took a recruit flight ever
quote:You'd trade a legacy for easy money, rather than make the money and work. so would kelly...Hell I might too, especially if I did not believe I could be successful
Don't blame him, I'd sit on my arse for 12+ million a year too.
quote:He wants to sit on his arse
Kiffin has guaranteed money as well, he took 3 recruting flights yesterday. Not sure Kelly ever took a recruit flight ever
[quote]It doesn't matter where he goes from the best school in the country to siting on his arse, LSU is paying for it.
Kiffin has guaranteed money as well, he took 3 recruting flights yesterday. Not sure Kelly ever took a recruit flight ever
quote:Brian Kelly was a successful coach in a pre-NIL ERA at a national brand that almost recruited itself. And he may have been successful at LSU in a time where the coach's effort was less needed to pull in talent
Same thing LSU fans claimed when you hired Brian Kelly and I said it wasn't a good hire. In order for Brian Kelly to met the expectations of LSU fans, he was going to need to be a different coach than he had been. And the same is true for Kiffin.
Lane Kiffin's trajectory increased as NIL became more prevelant, Kelly's decreased.
Kelly's resume was built pre-NIL and he was indeed a good coach for that time
Kiffin took a legitimately ore high pressure job for, from all accounts, the same pay being offered where he was at
This post was edited on 1/21/26 at 11:54 am
Posted on 1/21/26 at 11:51 am to Vulcan Materials
Your fear is noted
Enjoying ourselves watching TheDecline
Enjoying ourselves watching TheDecline
Posted on 1/21/26 at 11:59 am to Vulcan Materials
Are you saying a guy looking to retire and play golf who had not adjusted to the times in scheme is the same as a guy considered one of the brightest offensive minds in football and seems to be going full bore from the go are the same?
Kelly's issue was he didn't care and thought he would just walk in and LSU would make him an NC coach. His hires for coaches showed that arrogance, because he didn't even do his due diligence when coming here.
His recruiting efforts were weak given the resources provided, and he underachieved every year except 2022.
Yes, they are the same.
Kelly's issue was he didn't care and thought he would just walk in and LSU would make him an NC coach. His hires for coaches showed that arrogance, because he didn't even do his due diligence when coming here.
His recruiting efforts were weak given the resources provided, and he underachieved every year except 2022.
Yes, they are the same.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 12:00 pm to captdalton
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If any fanbase knows about losing it is LSU fans.
how mad are bama fans that with all of this Saban said LSU is the best job in the country? Is this why so many bama fans are so interested in LSU
Posted on 1/21/26 at 12:02 pm to captdalton
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A friendly reminder that LSU has 29 losses the past 6 seasons, an average of 5 losses per season.
And we fired our coach as a result.
What is your excuse for underperforming when it matters most?
Posted on 1/21/26 at 12:12 pm to ThePoo
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Does not want to work hard got it
Kiffin has guaranteed money as well, he took 3 recruting flights yesterday. Not sure Kelly ever took a recruit flight ever
This is just stuff you're making up. Kelly was constantly taking helicopter trips for recruiting.
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You'd trade a legacy for easy money, rather than make the money and work. so would kelly...Hell I might too, especially if I did not believe I could be successful
Nobody ever thought Brian Kelly was worth the money LSU paid him except for LSU fans. Not sure what you are arguing here.
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Brian Kelly was a successful coach in a pre-NIL ERA at a national brand that almost recruited itself. And he may have been successful at LSU in a time where the coach's effort was less needed to pull in talent
Lane Kiffin's trajectory increased as NIL became more prevelant, Kelly's decreased.
Kelly's resume was built pre-NIL and he was indeed a good coach for that time
Kiffin took a legitimately ore high pressure job for, from all accounts, the same pay being offered where he was at
Kiffin only had success because they played the easiest schedule in the SEC last year. He played 2 ranked teams and went 1-1 against them.
His win% against ranked teams is like 13-25, 34% or somewhere in that range, and I think he only has like 2 ranked wins against road teams in his career. He was doing even worse at Ole Miss until Golding arrived as well.
He chokes games away constantly. You saw it first hand in 2024 @ LSU when he blew that lead. This year against Georgia he blew a 9 point lead. It's just what Kiffin does.
So again, he's gonna to need to be a different coach if he's going to meet the expectations of LSU fans.
We'll see. I would melt if he was the HC of Alabama.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 12:32 pm to 3down10
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Kelly was constantly taking helicopter trips for recruiting.
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Brian Kelly did not specifically use a helicopter for recruiting while at LSU. The widely reported incident of a coach using a helicopter to visit Acadiana High School in January 2023 involved the head coach of the Miami Hurricanes, not Kelly.
The story about a coach using a helicopter to offer a scholarship is a general college football recruiting anecdote that has been associated with Kelly's time at Notre Dame, but there are no reports of him doing this specific action at LSU.
This post was edited on 1/21/26 at 12:33 pm
Posted on 1/21/26 at 12:36 pm to Tigerdew
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You better hope he is.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 12:44 pm to Topwater Trout
I will cry into the memories of seeing two national championships while being on campus in an academic capacity and the other by one of the most dominant teams ever.
I remember drinking with LSU fans at Innisfree, they were very good people. Not like the derelicts that pollute this board.
I remember drinking with LSU fans at Innisfree, they were very good people. Not like the derelicts that pollute this board.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 12:44 pm to Vulcan Materials
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Is Kiffin not just the same thing as Brian Kelly?
Posted on 1/21/26 at 12:47 pm to 3down10
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Yes, because you stupid fricks are paying for it no matter what he does. You're currently paying over $25 million per year for HC's and that will continue for the next 5 years.
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This is just stuff you're making up. Kelly was constantly taking helicopter trips for recruiting.
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This is just stuff you're making up.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 12:56 pm to CatfishJohn
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Kiffin has worked harder in the last 2 weeks than Kelly did his entire tenure.
I won't argue this.
I'm just curious to see how it translates. Kiffin had some great seasons at Ole Miss but also headscratchers for games sometimes.
The best season he ever had involved playing only two teams in the top half of the conference during the regular season, going 1-1 against them.
In a year where Ole Miss finished 11th and 10-3 overall, he gave Kentucky their only conference win of the year (2023).
Is Kiffin a good coach? Absolutely.
Does Kiffin out think himself sometimes? Also absolutely.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 12:57 pm to Vulcan Materials
Vulcan the difference being BK is a lazy POS, Kiffen the complete opposite. Look at what the Portal King has done in just a few months. Miles and O are not Sabans but both won Nattys.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 12:59 pm to skrayper
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I'm just curious to see how it translates. Kiffin had some great seasons at Ole Miss but also headscratchers for games sometimes.
I think this is probably true of everyone, except maybe Cignetti.
I don't think Kiffin is some elite savant, probably the best guy available this cycle though.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 1:07 pm to skrayper
quote:Fair
I won't argue this.
I'm just curious to see how it translates. Kiffin had some great seasons at Ole Miss but also headscratchers for games sometimes.
The best season he ever had involved playing only two teams in the top half of the conference during the regular season, going 1-1 against them.
In a year where Ole Miss finished 11th and 10-3 overall, he gave Kentucky their only conference win of the year (2023).
Is Kiffin a good coach? Absolutely.
Does Kiffin out think himself sometimes? Also absolutely.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 1:11 pm to MeatRocket879
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Not like the derelicts that pollute this board.
reminds you of the bama fans on this board right?
i know plenty of bama fans IRL and none of them act like the ones i see on here.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 1:12 pm to CaroTiger
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There’s a reason no other team had any interest in Kelly and teams were fighting over Kiffin.
LSU did show interest in Kelly after not getting their first and second choices. Kelly wasn't looking to leave Notre Dame until LSU decided to give him a huge contract.
This post was edited on 1/21/26 at 1:20 pm
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