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Posted on 1/3/25 at 11:04 am to
Posted by 8clap
Member since Sep 2022
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Posted on 1/3/25 at 11:04 am to
Completely disagree. Oregon ran the table and beat Ohio State and Penn State, 2 of the 4 semi-finalists. The first OSU game was a coin flip and Oregon was the better team against PSU.
Oregon is also the only team that didn't need a sorry azz excuse to blame for a loss (Milroe didn't play well, Michigan was fired up and beat us, Kentucky got lucky, Vanderbilt surprised us, etc.)
Posted by 8clap
Member since Sep 2022
89 posts
Posted on 1/3/25 at 11:07 am to
Ole Miss loses to Oregon. South Carolina already lost to Illinois. Texas A M AND LSU lost to Southern Cal. Alabama lost to a depleted Michigan. Have you been watching the games this year?

Pass the bong this way Mr Martini.
Posted by 8clap
Member since Sep 2022
89 posts
Posted on 1/3/25 at 11:09 am to
Oregon ran the table and already beat 2 of the 4 finalists and 3 of the final 8. How is that easy?
Posted by TexasOnTop
Member since Nov 2023
5289 posts
Posted on 1/3/25 at 11:09 am to
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South Carolina already lost to Illinois. Texas A M AND LSU lost to Southern Cal. Alabama lost to a depleted Michigan. Have you been watching the games this year?


We’re putting stock in bowl games now?
Posted by 8clap
Member since Sep 2022
89 posts
Posted on 1/3/25 at 11:17 am to
Um yeah, Alabama, South Carolina and Texas AM all had a chip on their shoulder with something to prove. LSU lost to USC in the regular season. SEC was favored in all the game mentioned and lost.
If these upper level SEC teams lost to mid level BIG teams, then Oregon was not overrated and would definitely beat South Carolina.
That's my factual based counter argument to your statement.
Posted by TexasOnTop
Member since Nov 2023
5289 posts
Posted on 1/3/25 at 11:24 am to
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Alabama, South Carolina and Texas AM all had a chip on their shoulder with something to prove.


lol no they didn’t.

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If these upper level SEC teams lost to mid level BIG teams, then Oregon was not overrated and would definitely beat South Carolina.


Yeah I’m pretty sure Oregon about lost to the University of Idaho this year (FCS).

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That's my factual based counter argument to your statement.


So you use meaningless games to justify Oregon not being overrated? I prefer to use regular season games. From what I remember the SEC was 3-1 against the B1G (LSU vs USC, Texas vs UM, Bama vs Wisconsin, LSU vs UCLA)
Posted by Mexican Martini
Member since Aug 2024
276 posts
Posted on 1/3/25 at 11:26 am to
it's factual to say oregon beats ole miss?
Posted by 8clap
Member since Sep 2022
89 posts
Posted on 1/3/25 at 12:22 pm to
Look at Texas , first year SEC member carrying the flag and getting defensive about the SEC!

You're just proving my point with your bowl game take. Like I stated in the first post, Oregon is the only team that doesn't need a sorry azz excuse to blame for a loss. Bama, Tenn, Ole Miss, Texas, Ohio State, Notre Dame, Georgia... every team. Now you're going with the, it was just a bowl game, it doesn't matter, excuse.

My original argument was simply, Oregon was NOT overrated. Oregon beat 3 playoff teams and 2 of the final four. They ran into a fire Ohio State and got beat, no excuses.

Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38116 posts
Posted on 1/3/25 at 12:23 pm to
OSU has been the best team all year long. How they lost to Michigan I will never understand
Posted by TexasOnTop
Member since Nov 2023
5289 posts
Posted on 1/3/25 at 12:25 pm to
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You're just proving my point with your bowl game take.


Stating that games where players opt out are meaningless and not a true reflection of the actual team is proving your point? I think most people would say regular season games are more of an indicator than opt out bowls.
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
8712 posts
Posted on 1/3/25 at 12:27 pm to
You can look at the playoff games but, at this point, the rest of the bowl games are more like 2025 spring practice games than any strong indicators of how good the teams were over the past season.
Posted by theballguy
Member since Oct 2011
18247 posts
Posted on 1/3/25 at 12:42 pm to
They did struggle with Boise State but Texas should be preparing their anuses.
Posted by theballguy
Member since Oct 2011
18247 posts
Posted on 1/3/25 at 12:43 pm to
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How they lost to Michigan I will never understand


Kind of like losing to Milore two years in a row.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38116 posts
Posted on 1/3/25 at 12:45 pm to
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Kind of like losing to Milore two years in a row.


No. I totally understand that.
Posted by Jeepin_Josh
Nashville TN
Member since Jan 2024
322 posts
Posted on 1/3/25 at 12:53 pm to
OSU has prob the most talented team and they are getting super hot at the right time. That QB is playing lights out.
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
11830 posts
Posted on 1/3/25 at 1:00 pm to
They aren’t bad but nothing like a traditional 1 seed.

Their defense is not that great, and they played a pretty mediocre schedule.

The Big Ten has 3 very good teams in Oregon, PSU and tOSU. The rest are mediocre at best including Indiana. Michigan is a strange team because they have talent but only win when they match up well.

In the end, they aren’t better as a whole than the SEC. They simply had easier roads there.

ND played 1 ranked team all season and the next best is A&M to open the season with an entirely new staff. Then played an overrated Indiana that has 1 good win all year. And a worn down and injured UGA that played maybe the toughest schedule in the country for any good team.

tOSU had 3 tough games (UO, Michigan and PSU).

When fully healthy and no opt outs for either side middle of the pack SEC likely destroys Big Ten middle of the pack except maybe to start the season because teams have not settled in.

That said, Big Ten teams at the top are very good. But this is the result of the super conferences year one and the expanded playoffs year one.

In the end, it doesn’t mean anything about any leagues moving forward.

Posted by Wishbone85
Member since Nov 2024
763 posts
Posted on 1/3/25 at 1:19 pm to
Posted by Lizardman2
Member since Jan 2024
1849 posts
Posted on 1/3/25 at 1:21 pm to
They were good.

In football especially, the prep and game plan is huge. It didn't look like the staff set them up to be successful in their schemes and failed to make adjustments.

It happens, but it wasn't a big talent gap that caused it. It was a superior game plan.
Posted by JEC119
Member since Apr 2024
1211 posts
Posted on 1/3/25 at 1:23 pm to
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No one dominant team like we had with Clemson, LSU and Georgia in their title-winning seasons.


Forgot one “Doctor”
Posted by bama1959
Huntsville, AL
Member since Nov 2008
4979 posts
Posted on 1/3/25 at 1:33 pm to
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No one dominant team like we had with Clemson, LSU and Georgia in their title-winning seasons.


You would forget Bama. Which had the most record breaking super dominant teams over the last 2 decades. I'll just put you in the category of a "jealous" LSU fan. Don't worry, you have lots of company.
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