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re: Is Georgia vs South Carolina a big rivalry?
Posted on 9/14/23 at 10:50 am to DirtyDawg
Posted on 9/14/23 at 10:50 am to DirtyDawg
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Sorry, we call the shots around here.
you don't get to call shots on what SC fans think of UGA....
you can't say "we dont see you as a rival, but you see us as one" and then determine that to be a fact because "you call the shots" .
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Posted on 9/14/23 at 10:52 am to GamecockUltimate
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no we wouldnt...again you guys just want to think that because to you we arent rivals, and you want people to crave you as a rival.
Facts.
Posted on 9/14/23 at 10:57 am to Dawgfanman
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We’ve played 75 times and nearly every year since the late 50s. Usually a good game and our first SEC opponent.
Not going to lie - I hate that UGA won't be on our schedule next year while the SEC tries to figure out how to integrate OK and TX. I don't care if we lose most years, we've played more than a lot of higher profile rivals, we share a border, and as you mentioned it was traditionally week 2 or 3 so it always had a good early-season atmosphere.
Posted on 9/14/23 at 11:00 am to 1801
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it's Tennessee and it's not close
I mean really? Clemson is #1 and it's not close.
Many Gamecocks may put UGA at #2 by themselves or lump in UGA, UT, and UF as one kind group of schools we consider rivals but far below Clemson.
Historically, UNC might have come in at #2 and for Gamecocks living in the state I'm sure it still is. But it's been so long since we've played them regularly it doesn't mean as much to younger fans on either side of the border other than having bragging rights over the other team with Carolina in the name.
Posted on 9/14/23 at 11:29 am to theGarnetWay
quote:absolutely Clem is our lone true rival -
I mean really? Clemson is #1 and it's not close.
my intent was to convey Gamecock fans hate - I mean slap out hate - losing in any sport to Tennessee - more than Georgia - and it's not close -
from a nostalgic sense - UGA is our closest to a rival in the SEC - but from a pure bitter/absolutely loathe playing - it's Tennessee - not Georgia -
Posted on 9/14/23 at 11:34 am to PassingThrough
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This might be the greatest accomplishment Georgia ever did. Helping to take down UF, SC, AND Auburn in just a few years.
Bobo was probably the best coach on Auburn’s staff in 2021, would’ve been worse without him.
Muschamp has always done a good job during his Auburn stops.
Posted on 9/14/23 at 12:08 pm to 1801
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it's Tennessee and it's not close - Georgia was a complete shite-show when Carolina entered the SEC - Tennessee was not. Carolina & Georgia had also played regularly for the past few decades so it wasn't anything different for us to play UGA yearly.
UGA is 19-12 since USC joined the SEC and Has been beaten by UT 3 more times than they have been beaten by UGA in that time frame. The reason that USC fans do not consider UGA as big a rival, and they are correct, is because UGA has been whipping USC's arse for over 100 years. SC has played Georgia 70 times and has a dismal winning % of .237. They have played UT 41 times and have a slightly better winning % at .268. They have played North Carolina 58 times and have a winning % of .344 and have played Clemson 113 times and have a winning % of .363. Next to Clemson UGA is the team USC has played the most in their history and, of teams they have played more than 10 times, they have the worst record against LOL.. that is why USC does not consider UGA a rival and certainly why UGA does not consider USC a rival...because the game has been played many, many times and the result is almost always the same, South Carolina goes slinking home with a whipped arse.
Posted on 9/14/23 at 12:18 pm to meansonny
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It is always geographic for Georgia fans (Columbus = Auburn, Valdosta = Florida, Augusta = Clemson or South Carolina, Dalton = Tennessee, Atlanta = GT).
Largest state east of the Mississippi. And College Football is regional.
In my experience the majority of UGA fans consider UF our biggest rivalry with Auburn being a close second and, especially for Dawg fans over 45 or so Georgia Tech. UGA and UT have played some good games but at the end of the day we just haven't played one another often enough for the game to be a rival. The same goes for LSU and the Mississippi schools. We have played and beaten South Carolina so often that they are certainly not a rival. They are less competitive against us in football than Vandy or Kentucky. They were, until they joined a conference, a rent a win for UGA. Clem's son was the same...just a good tune up game for conference play. Yes, both schools from South Carolina have beaten UGA but they have gotten beaten far more often...
Posted on 9/14/23 at 12:23 pm to DawginSC
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I'm saying UGa/USC was better, as a series, from 2000-2015 than UGa/Auburn or UGa/UF during the same time period.
From 2000-2015 UGA is:
9-7 vs SC. 10 of the 16 games were by a TD or less. Yes, it was a competitive series during that time frame.
10-6 vs AU. 9 of the 16 games decided by a TD or less. About the same level of competition as SC.
5-11 vs UF. 9 of the 16 games decided by a TD or less. UGA lost more but the games had as many close calls as the other two series. About the same level of competition, but since UGA was on the losing side it makes the rivalry stronger for us than the other two.
UF and AU have more history and were very close to the same level of competitiveness as SC was over the time period you suggested. You can see why those are viewed as better rivalries even over that time.
Thank you for doing the numbers. At its most competitive the UGA/USC series has never been as good as UGA/UF or UGA/Auburn are even UGA/GT for that. UGA/Clemson is a better rivalry, using the term loosely, than UGA and USC was at its most competitive.
Posted on 9/14/23 at 12:26 pm to aTm boy
The fact that we have an almost 6pg thread on the simple question on if this is a rivalry or not should tell you all you need to know. If it wasn’t, it would’ve lasted about 6 posts and been ignored.
We may think of each other as different tiers and different ranks on our respective rivalry lists but we are rivals none the less.
We may think of each other as different tiers and different ranks on our respective rivalry lists but we are rivals none the less.
Posted on 9/14/23 at 12:29 pm to RoyalAir
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No one is saying it was better during the history of football, guy. I'm saying UGa/USC was better, as a series, from 2000-2015 than UGa/Auburn or UGa/UF during the same time period. I've continuously qualified the time period.
I couldn't give a shite less about games played in 1930, when we were in a different conference.
What you wrote was that the UGA/USC series was a better series than UGA/UF and UGA/Auburn prior to Will Muschamp being hired at USC. You did not say it was better from 1991 until Muschamp was hired or while Spurrier was at USC prior to Muschamp, you wrote that it was a better series up until Muschamp was hired, which is categorically not true, either way. The UGA/AUburn series during the era was more competitive and the UF/UGA series more meaningful....
Posted on 9/14/23 at 12:39 pm to AwgustaDawg
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What you wrote was that the UGA/USC series was a better series than UGA/UF and UGA/Auburn prior to Will Muschamp being hired at USC.
In thread after thread, post after post, I've mentioned the same span of time. I'm looking at modern football, which I've stated as starting in 2000.
Get excited about victories before the Balfour Declaration all you want. Point there is absolutely conceded.
Posted on 9/14/23 at 12:53 pm to AwgustaDawg
As expected, it is regional in Georgia.
You may be correct for percentages breakdown.
But ask someone in Rome or Dalton and you are probably more likely to get Tennessee as the answer.
Ask someone in Columbus, and Auburn will significantly outnumber Florida.
Florida may be the top answer, but there are areas of Atlanta where it still won't top Georgia Tech.
You may be correct for percentages breakdown.
But ask someone in Rome or Dalton and you are probably more likely to get Tennessee as the answer.
Ask someone in Columbus, and Auburn will significantly outnumber Florida.
Florida may be the top answer, but there are areas of Atlanta where it still won't top Georgia Tech.
Posted on 9/14/23 at 12:54 pm to RoyalAir
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In thread after thread, post after post, I've mentioned the same span of time. I'm looking at modern football, which I've stated as starting in 2000.
Get excited about victories before the Balfour Declaration all you want. Point there is absolutely conceded.
In the era you are talking about UGA has a 72% winning advantage LOL. It wasn't close in the era near and dear to the hearts of SC fans and it wasn't close in any era.
Posted on 9/14/23 at 2:20 pm to AwgustaDawg
The only point I will add is that I think win % isnt the end all be all for determining rivals. It determines who has been better in said rivalry, but as noted our record vs Clemson is not great. That said, we hate them with a passion. Blood has been spilled. Whereas other matchups maybe about even but it isnt a great rivalry.
That said, UGA has other teams on its mind, and so do we. Its only considered a little hostile because so many of us work together and live close.
That said, UGA has other teams on its mind, and so do we. Its only considered a little hostile because so many of us work together and live close.
Posted on 9/14/23 at 3:18 pm to AwgustaDawg
SC is a wannabee program. Always has been
Posted on 9/14/23 at 4:38 pm to meansonny
quote:it absolutely is - that's why the only dawg fan on here screaming about Carolina is from the CSRA and probably attended Screven County High as a 'Gamecock' - resulting in the disdain displayed here today
As expected, it is regional in Georgia.
Posted on 9/14/23 at 5:06 pm to aTm boy
It has been. But it won't remain that way if Georgia keeps pounding them. It'll become like Tech.
We did lose in 2019 in a weird game with rain where we turned the ball over multiple times in crucial situations and our FG kicker missed what is usually a money FG for him.
Last three seasons' margin of victory:
29
27
41
We did lose in 2019 in a weird game with rain where we turned the ball over multiple times in crucial situations and our FG kicker missed what is usually a money FG for him.
Last three seasons' margin of victory:
29
27
41
Posted on 9/14/23 at 5:10 pm to FireDanMullen
In case you aren’t aware most of Georgias walkons could start at a lot of top schools. Georgia rotates players and even our fourth string usually gets on the field. With very little let down. They GOOD!
Posted on 9/14/23 at 5:11 pm to koreandawg
And as large as those wins were Kirby showed mercy. Could have been even worse
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