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re: Is Florida in the "big 6"?
Posted on 12/19/22 at 4:40 pm to pdfield34
Posted on 12/19/22 at 4:40 pm to pdfield34
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For starters, when competition was inclusive of all races.
Non-starter, football is football, no matter the color of the skin of those who played it.
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Also it's not just automatic that if you win an SEC championship you are full standing member. You are in a probationary period. The Big Six schools have tradition and backing that ensure they be back again and again. See contrast with Tenn. / Texas AM this year. That's just the way it is.
It was established before you entered the conversation an SEC title in 60 years and a recent national title. In 1963 Ole Miss had a 16 year run of 6 SEC championships and a national title. If that would've started in 1992, they would have looked every bit as good as Florida did going into the 2006 season.
If you stand by your comment, then really Florida would be in a probationary peroid and how long would you give them before you decided they didn't meet expectations? And that would answer my original question.
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Posted on 12/19/22 at 4:46 pm to ChiGator
You're missing the point. The point is UGA has been good for a long time. Florida has only been good during the Spurrier and Tebow eras.
Posted on 12/19/22 at 5:15 pm to ukraine_rebel
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Non-starter, football is football, no matter the color of the skin of those who played it.
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Ole Miss Fan
Yep, checks out.
Posted on 12/19/22 at 5:40 pm to ukraine_rebel
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If you stand by your comment, then really Florida would be in a probationary peroid and how long would you give them before you decided they didn't meet expectations? And that would answer my original question.
Florida is big6. Youre beg6, baw.
This post was edited on 12/19/22 at 5:41 pm
Posted on 12/19/22 at 5:48 pm to ukraine_rebel
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Thats weird bc everything I pull up shows Florida winning the SECCG in 1993z
You are correct. I just remember that we had to watch both teams that we beat play in the SECCG.
Just like we had to watch the CFPCG in 2017 between two teams that we beat.
Fandom can really suck sometimes....
Posted on 12/19/22 at 6:03 pm to GusAU
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Fandom can really suck sometimes....
Yep I think we have a record in being most “only blemishes”
Posted on 12/19/22 at 7:47 pm to Sgt Tuffnuts
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Your recruits were in pre-school.
Nice way of putting it into perspective
Posted on 12/19/22 at 8:30 pm to ukraine_rebel
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It was established before you entered the conversation an SEC title in 60 years and a recent national title.
That is false information. The criterium is obtaining an SEC title in the modern era. Florida absolutely dominated the decade of the 90s and then came back with the Urban Meyer era. What are you talking about with probation and the Gators?
Also reference to performance in the 60s is absurd.
UT has another 20 years before being in danger of being kicked out. You can't dismiss a good, consistent track record in the 80s and 90s. Even in the early 2000s they still went to the SEC championship game.
Also, this might be hard to grasp, but the big six schools all have facilities and intangibles (championship tradition) that give them the benefit of the doubt in terms of length of stay. In other words, most people know UT will win a championship in the next 20 years.
You can't deny or dismiss the tradition and intangibles, that is why there will be a probationary period for any new members.
Posted on 12/20/22 at 4:42 am to pdfield34
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That is false information.
Then you need to take that up with “allin2010” Auburn fan big 6 member who said, and I’m quoting here
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The Big 6 include schools with a recent NC (BCS, Playoffs), have won the SEC in the last 60 years and have the money and prestige to continue. Those schools are Bama, LSU, UGA, Florida, UT and Auburn. That is the criteria.
If Tennessee has 20 years, that would be 45 years since last title, which is not far from the 40 years I suggested a couple of pages ago.
Like Florida, Ole Miss dominated the 50s and had a couple of good years in the 60s.
I don’t see what everyone’s beef is in admitting that Ole Miss had a good run, one good enough to have been big 6 worthy for a period of time as they were tied for most SEC titles at that point.
And then not answering the question of when would have Ole Miss fallen of that group. For reference LSU did not pass Ole Miss in SEC title until 1988, and Auburn in 2010! Florida 2006 and Georgia 1980.
So again, the question is at what point did Ole Miss fall out?
Posted on 12/20/22 at 7:11 am to ukraine_rebel
The original term was in reference to the 6 SEC teams who won the conference in the 80s. Maybe y'all should try winning something since integration?
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This post was edited on 12/20/22 at 7:12 am
Posted on 12/20/22 at 7:11 am to ukraine_rebel
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So again, the question is at what point did Ole Miss fall out?
Y’all were never there
Posted on 12/20/22 at 7:39 am to BowlJackson
So many pointless arguments, so little time.
Posted on 12/20/22 at 7:47 am to Tornado Alley
Georgia had two significant droughts and they both were the heels of a good coach staying too long.
1949-1964 The back end of Wally Butts till Dooley
1986-2002 The back end of Dooley till Richt.
1949-1964 The back end of Wally Butts till Dooley
1986-2002 The back end of Dooley till Richt.
Posted on 12/20/22 at 8:19 am to MetroAtlantaGatorFan
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The original term was in reference to the 6 SEC teams who won the conference in the 80s.
kudos to you sir for providing the authentic, original criteria. It has nothing to do w/ long-term sustained success or status of program, or money etc. It is simply, did you win a title in the 1980s? So all this talk of who's in, who's out, is a moot point.
Where were you a 100 posts ago when the ? was first asked? Could have saved some grief.
Last comment will be, I wonder if the headline would have read the big 7 if we could've just beaten UT in 1986.
Posted on 12/20/22 at 8:24 am to ukraine_rebel
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the big 7 if we could've just beaten UT
What an exclusive club!
Posted on 12/20/22 at 8:25 am to Faurot fodder
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What an exclusive club!
I know right? If Coach Bullard would've been right about winning the Southeast conference in 1985, could've been the big 8, who's missing?
Posted on 12/20/22 at 8:31 am to ukraine_rebel
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could've been the big 8
Hell, they would have their own conference. So exclusive. LOL
Posted on 12/20/22 at 8:52 am to Faurot fodder
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So many pointless arguments, so little time.
Yeah. You hit that nail on the head.
Posted on 12/20/22 at 8:57 am to Leto II
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You hit that nail on the head.
It was a hope for the OP to dispel not a myth; but a truth.
Truths are hard to dispel.
The next reply after OP could’ve ended the thread.
OP wanted moar and subsequently got shelled for six pages. Posted on 12/20/22 at 9:05 am to dstone12
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It was a hope for the OP to dispel not a myth; but a truth.
Truths are hard to dispel.
The next reply after OP could’ve ended the thread. OP wanted moar and subsequently got shelled for six pages.
What is "moar?" Most of this thread proves my point of big 6 futility, so I'm not sure what your role here is besides being a dickstain.
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