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re: Is faking an injury coached to give D time to rest / adjust ?

Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:46 pm to
Posted by mwlewis
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Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:46 pm to
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Many Bama posters here have said that they openly acknowledge that the LSU game is bigger to them now. I can understand that the hate isn't as strong. I'd rather Alabama win the NC five times in a row than Ole miss or Tulane

Competition wise, yes. But as far as hatred goes I would rather lose to LSU than UT or Auburn.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
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Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:47 pm to
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Faking and injury is I'm sure not legal. Enforcement may be issue.


Just like flopping in soccer and basketball, tbh. It's GOING to happen, but it's still a pussy move, whether your team does it or not (and my aggies are NOT blameless btw).
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:48 pm to
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I think that it is - but still hate when fans boo.


Without a doubt.

And is the move of a pussy coach too.
Posted by Tigerdew
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Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:49 pm to
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Just like flopping in soccer and basketball, tbh. It's GOING to happen, but it's still a pussy move, whether your team does it or not (and my aggies are NOT blameless btw).


It's more the equivalent of the hug in boxing.
Posted by NutHanger Farm
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Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:50 pm to
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:50 pm to
That's probably the most accurate analogy.
This post was edited on 7/5/13 at 11:51 pm
Posted by adammwilson
Carrollton (GA)
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Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:52 pm to
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Then condition your defense better. Tough titty.


Has nothing to do with conditioning. I'm saying you can't get guys on and off that fast.
Posted by adammwilson
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Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:53 pm to
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Just like flopping in soccer and basketball, tbh. It's GOING to happen, but it's still a pussy move, whether your team does it or not


the vast majority of flopping in soccer has been removed. It's an automatic yellow now.
Posted by dreaux
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Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:55 pm to
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No such action has ever been taken against the no huddle. Faking injuries is bush-league.


Bush league? Hurrying to the line of scrimmage and snapping the ball before the defense can get lined up is the equivalent of the hidden ball trick.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
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Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:56 pm to
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Has nothing to do with conditioning.


Has everything to do with conditioning. You're wrong.

And if you can't sub your guys off and on while the ref is standing over the ball, then that's on the coaching staff for being ill prepared.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:57 pm to
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the vast majority of flopping in soccer has been removed.


Meh, I won't profess to be an expert on soccer. Not really my point anyway.
Posted by adammwilson
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Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:58 pm to
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And if you can't sub your guys off and on while the ref is standing over the ball, then that's on the coaching staff for being ill prepared.


I'm saying there isn't enough time. It has nothing to do with being ill prepared. It's almost impossible to do substitutions. Think 1 guy has to run on the field tell the guy he is subbed out then that guy has to run to the sideline after he is already dead tired. It's ridiculous.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:59 pm to
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See what I did there?




Switched words around to avoid addressing the post itself.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
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Posted on 7/6/13 at 12:01 am to
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I'm saying there isn't enough time. It has nothing to do with being ill prepared. It's almost impossible to do substitutions. Think 1 guy has to run on the field tell the guy he is subbed out then that guy has to run to the sideline after he is already dead tired. It's ridiculous.


Again, this comes down to coaching. Know the tendencies of the offense you're playing against and prepare accordingly for different packages to substitute on the fly. The offense is also subbing on the run while they're "dead tired." Not going to coddle the defense, I sorry.
Posted by dreaux
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Posted on 7/6/13 at 12:01 am to
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I'm saying there isn't enough time. It has nothing to do with being ill prepared. It's almost impossible to do substitutions. Think 1 guy has to run on the field tell the guy he is subbed out then that guy has to run to the sideline after he is already dead tired. It's ridiculous.


And still call the play while the offense already knows it. Yup, that hammy starting to burn!
Posted by dreaux
baton rouge
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Posted on 7/6/13 at 12:03 am to
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prepare accordingly for different packages to substitute on the fly


Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
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Posted on 7/6/13 at 12:03 am to
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By making it near impossible for a defense to sub in fresh legs.



At least learn the fricking rules before trying to defend something. Not only do the refs allow for substitutions every time the offense changes sets, the majority of the teams A&M played last year were able to sub in and out just fine without "cramping".

Unless you're prepared to argue that LSU and Florida are less conditioned and need more assistance than Louisiana Tech and Missouri, there really is nothing to discuss.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 7/6/13 at 12:04 am to
That's what good defensive coaches do.

Obviously LSU found a way to make it work vs. A&M. As did Florida.
Posted by adammwilson
Carrollton (GA)
Member since Jul 2009
21519 posts
Posted on 7/6/13 at 12:04 am to
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Know the tendencies of the offense you're playing against and prepare accordingly for different packages to substitute on the fly.


You're just not getting it.

Guy runs on field- 3 seconds

Guys tells other guy he is subbed out- 3 seconds

Guys runs off field- 5 seconds

11 seconds and that's being nice. I've seen a&m runs plays quicker than that.

Posted by adammwilson
Carrollton (GA)
Member since Jul 2009
21519 posts
Posted on 7/6/13 at 12:05 am to
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And still call the play


Exactly. And get the defensive players the play call.
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