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re: Is faking an injury coached to give D time to rest / adjust ?

Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:13 pm to
Posted by The_Joker
Winter Park, Fl
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Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:13 pm to
This post was edited on 7/5/13 at 11:18 pm
Posted by gnarkill1529
Alabama
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Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:15 pm to
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
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Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:16 pm to
quote:

The Hurry Up offense is a gimmick to gain an advantage no different than "faking" would be a gimmick to level the playing field.


And as soon as the NCAA/NFL start threatening penalties for using the hurry up, you'll have a point to make here.

As it stands, the governing bodies that oversee the highest levels of football competition disagree with you.
Posted by Oizers
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:16 pm to
Faking injuries is just as legal as the no huddle offense.
Posted by aggiegreg93
Austin, Tx
Member since Jul 2012
1013 posts
Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:16 pm to
I respect Muschamp for not denying it....Miles on the other hand....biggest d-bag out there!

Only coach I know lose a 28 point lead then get a promotion and raise
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
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Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:20 pm to
Posted by adammwilson
Carrollton (GA)
Member since Jul 2009
21519 posts
Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:21 pm to
This whole thread is dumb. 99% of players wouldn't fake injuries that's cheap and classless.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:22 pm to
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Faking injuries is just as legal as the no huddle offense.


The NCAA rulebook actively discourages it and the NCAA has already threatened to take the NFL route and punish teams/players/coaches who practice it.

No such action has ever been taken against the no huddle. Faking injuries is bush-league.
Posted by hg
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:22 pm to
Yea Dorsey faked his injury against Auburn...
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:23 pm to
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And as soon as the NCAA/NFL start threatening penalties for using the hurry up, you'll have a point to make here.

As it stands, the governing bodies that oversee the highest levels of football competition disagree with you.


Show me where there is a rule in place that guards against a player faking an injury?

You're treating it like it's some soccer pussy faking out absolutley no one to try to draw a penalty.

If a player "fakes" an injury, they have to come off the field. Does it slow down the game? Sure, but it's not as if it's a costless venture. As the gif above shows, both players faked it, so both players have to sub out.

It's just as legal as the hurry up. I see no problem here.
Posted by mwlewis
JeffCo
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:23 pm to
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cheap and classless.

Florida and LSU... Yep sounds about right.
Posted by NutHanger Farm
Member since Jun 2013
200 posts
Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:23 pm to
I doubt Faking is legal. I just doubt they say it. If it was legal to fake it - it would be like a TO, no need to fall down just signal the ref. "hey ref blow a fake penalty substitution." Cool.

It is done - but it is pussy. Period. Like Soccer and NBA flopping.

BTW how is hurry up gimmick? Most all teams go into hurry up at some point - some just started doing it earlier years ago when they were down.

Its no more a gimmick than the forward pass was at one point or the option.

Some of you guys just spew shite. You have no clue. Amazing.

Finding a way to win with less talent is brilliant - faking an injury in not legal. Its cheating. Amazing how the two are viewed.
Posted by adammwilson
Carrollton (GA)
Member since Jul 2009
21519 posts
Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:24 pm to
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Faking injuries is bush-league.


So is mindlessly accusing players of faking them.
Posted by Elleshoe
Wade’s World
Member since Jun 2004
143616 posts
Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:24 pm to
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Mid-major cheating tactics have no place in the SEC. Funny how Bama never had a problem with cramping against our offense.


Except for losing to y'all and LSU beating A&M. You might be the dumbest cocksucker on this board
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
46481 posts
Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:27 pm to
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The NCAA rulebook actively discourages it


The NCAA rulebook also discourages shopping your son around to different schools, but its not enforced. Neither is this petty argument.

quote:

the NCAA has already threatened to take the NFL route and punish teams/players/coaches who practice it.

If I had a nickel for every time the NCAA had "threatened" to do something

quote:

Faking injuries is bush-league.

To a team that lives and dies by the hurry up Or you could think up a way that your offense could adjust to a team trying to slow the game down. You know the saying "take what the defense gives you?" Well they're giving you some time and some substitutions to figure out who is most exhausted across the LOS. Take it as a gift and exploit the weakness.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:27 pm to
If the trainers have to come help a player off the field, that player should not be allowed to come back in at any point for the remainder of that series. That would force coaches to either play the game as it was intended, lose good players for extended periods or put scrubs out there and risk them getting beat just for the chance to fake an injury.

Either that, or start actively punishing coaches and teams that do it.
Posted by adammwilson
Carrollton (GA)
Member since Jul 2009
21519 posts
Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:28 pm to
fwiw to be fair to soccer they've gotten rid of flopping.
Posted by NutHanger Farm
Member since Jun 2013
200 posts
Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:28 pm to
Adam - I agree completely - that is why I said I hate when fans boo. Because you don't know. And respect for the athlete should come first.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:29 pm to
quote:

Faking injuries is just as legal as the no huddle offense.


Incorrect.
Posted by Elleshoe
Wade’s World
Member since Jun 2004
143616 posts
Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:30 pm to
Roger you sho is angry about that loss in College Station in the Super Bowl for you guys.
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