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re: Is faking an injury coached to give D time to rest / adjust ?
Posted on 7/6/13 at 5:36 pm to crimsonian
Posted on 7/6/13 at 5:36 pm to crimsonian
Great Point.
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Posted on 7/6/13 at 6:05 pm to beatbammer
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I think it would fall under the rules of "unsportsmanlike conduct".
True. However, gonna be real tough to prove a player isn't really cramping up.
Posted on 7/6/13 at 6:12 pm to Tigerdew
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True. However, gonna be real tough to prove a player isn't really cramping up.
True enough, and a cramp is a legitimate injury. And sorry to repeat myself, but this:
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isn't what most are talking about. See about 0:10 in.
I don't know if there's an answer even for something this awful, but a previous poster had a good idea, I think: injured player sits out the series.
Posted on 7/6/13 at 6:19 pm to finestfirst79
I have no trouble with HUNH, I understand more players are gonna cramp, puke, have a stinger they aren't sure what is, tweak an ankle, knee or elbow. In a normal pace offense they have time to put a little weight on it, put the joint thru range of motion and determine they are ok.....like we all do when we get hurt.
Against the HUNH the coaches will instruct them that if they think they may be injured, go down, one to insure they aren't playing a play with 10 men, the other to insure a player isn't risking further injury.
The amount of dings and tweaks during a game is vast. The fans of teams with hurry up offenses should understand that the majority of the trainer visits are not for completely made up injuries, they also are visiting players that normally would not go out if they had another 30 seconds to shake it off so to speak. The booing is never ever acceptable.
Against the HUNH the coaches will instruct them that if they think they may be injured, go down, one to insure they aren't playing a play with 10 men, the other to insure a player isn't risking further injury.
The amount of dings and tweaks during a game is vast. The fans of teams with hurry up offenses should understand that the majority of the trainer visits are not for completely made up injuries, they also are visiting players that normally would not go out if they had another 30 seconds to shake it off so to speak. The booing is never ever acceptable.
Posted on 7/6/13 at 6:21 pm to NutHanger Farm
Posted on 7/6/13 at 7:43 pm to ConwayGamecock
Yea - there is no way to prove it. Thats the beauty of it.
The perfect crime.
It relies on the participants not being cheaters.
What if teams that were outmacthed just started doing it on the first snap to make it a 6 hour game and stay fresh vs a deeper team.
The perfect crime.
It relies on the participants not being cheaters.
What if teams that were outmacthed just started doing it on the first snap to make it a 6 hour game and stay fresh vs a deeper team.
Posted on 7/6/13 at 8:04 pm to NutHanger Farm
I think the refs ought to bebetter about giving defense time to get set.
Posted on 7/6/13 at 8:30 pm to BamaNixon
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You mean thatlegal move. They went down, they sat out the required play, and they went back in. All on the up-and-up.
I'm talking about football not soccer. Certainly if a player is hurt, he should seek assistance, even if it means hitting the turf.
A game official is not a medical professional and he must side with the person appearing to be injured.
But football is a game of honor and if a coach coaches a player to fake an injury and a player follows that instruction both have no honor.
The only people who know for sure if they are faking an injury are the coach and player. They have to live with that on their conscience.
Posted on 7/6/13 at 8:34 pm to agswin
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But football is a game of honor and if a coach coaches a player to fake an injury and a player follows that instruction both have no honor.
If its a game of honor than just get in a fricking huddle and call a play.
Posted on 7/6/13 at 8:35 pm to Tigerdew
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If its a game of honor than just get in a fricking huddle and call a play.
Or hurry your fat lazy out of shape arse up to the line of scrimmage and be ready to defend
Posted on 7/6/13 at 8:39 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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Or hurry your fat lazy out of shape arse up to the line of scrimmage and be ready to defend
Don't need to.
Posted on 7/6/13 at 8:41 pm to Tigerdew
Taken from 2011 NCAA rules Committe meeting
FEIGNING INJURIES There is considerable concern among committee members about reports of teams having their players fake injuries as a means of slowing down teams that play the game at a faster pace. The committee takes this opportunity to remind the coaching community that the faking of injuries is expressly forbidden under the Coaching Ethics section of The Football Code, paragraph 8 (page FR-13 of the 2009- 10 Rule Book).
FEIGNING INJURIES There is considerable concern among committee members about reports of teams having their players fake injuries as a means of slowing down teams that play the game at a faster pace. The committee takes this opportunity to remind the coaching community that the faking of injuries is expressly forbidden under the Coaching Ethics section of The Football Code, paragraph 8 (page FR-13 of the 2009- 10 Rule Book).
Posted on 7/6/13 at 8:42 pm to Tigerdew
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Don't need to.
Should need to.
:twodifferentschoolsofthought:
:endthisgoddamnthread:
Posted on 7/6/13 at 8:44 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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endthisgoddamnthread
Might as well keep it all in here. No way you frickers don't bitch about it at least 12 times between now and 8/31.
Posted on 7/6/13 at 8:45 pm to TbirdSpur2010
I just ended it. Damn this board hates threads that are actually interesting.
Posted on 7/6/13 at 8:45 pm to Tigerdew
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Might as well keep it all in here. No way you frickers don't bitch about it at least 12 times between now and 8/31.
And y'all frickers will bitch just as loudly in the opposite direction
Posted on 7/6/13 at 8:46 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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Or hurry your fat lazy out of shape arse up to the line of scrimmage and be ready to defend
This.
Someone make me understand why y'all think the hurry up only effects the defense?
Posted on 7/6/13 at 8:49 pm to WhiskerBiscuitSlayer
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Someone make me understand why y'all think the hurry up only effects the defense?
It's minimal really. Although its generally a little tougher to chase and tackle than it is to block and run but that's about it I guess. The hurry up is designed to catch defenses out of position.
Posted on 7/6/13 at 9:02 pm to Tigerdew
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The hurry up is designed to catch defenses out of position.
That's really the point of any good offense when you get down to it.
ETA: IGNORE THE ABOVE. NOT INTENDED FOR RANT BANTER. THANK YOU.
This post was edited on 7/6/13 at 9:11 pm
Posted on 7/6/13 at 9:03 pm to TbirdSpur2010
Nuh uh
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