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re: Is Ewers the biggest example so far of NIL failure?
Posted on 4/29/25 at 11:49 am to Monahans
Posted on 4/29/25 at 11:49 am to Monahans
Bust? Took us to back to back semi finals?
How can you call that level of production a bust. Didnt win a natty but if its natty or everyone is a bust sadly 99% of players out there are busts then
How can you call that level of production a bust. Didnt win a natty but if its natty or everyone is a bust sadly 99% of players out there are busts then
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Posted on 4/29/25 at 11:56 am to 3down10
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I've already explained it to you. I'm not going to keep repeating myself because you are too stupid to grasp basic concepts. If you want to continue the argument, just go back and reread my posts from the last page.
You do not know their intent. PERIOD.
I guess next you're going to tell me Obama's daughter really did provide consulting worth millions of dollars.
And btw, an ad hominem is when they insult rather than provide an argument. Your inability to comprehend a basic fact is not my fault.
Yet here you are, still arguing a point you said you were done with.
I repeat, separate emotion from the argument and you might end up actually making a solid rebuttal.
Posted on 4/29/25 at 12:11 pm to WoodyOrnamental
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Stfu. You don't know what you're talking about. Good grief
Everybody knows you turds were paying players under the table, aggot.
It's not a secret.
Posted on 4/29/25 at 12:18 pm to TexasOnTop
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Yet here you are, still arguing a point you said you were done with.
I repeat, separate emotion from the argument and you might end up actually making a solid rebuttal.
You lost the debate when you pretended to know the motives of people/businesses. It's impossible that you do. I know it, you know, everyone who reads this thread knows it.
It's your emotions that are preventing you from admitting it because you want this weird fantasy that your QB was just magically getting only legit NIL deals.
And I'm sure it'll only be pure coincidence when the NIL deals stop and the next QB magically picks them up.
fricking idiot - just to give you something to cry
Posted on 4/29/25 at 12:24 pm to narddogg81
"Hold my beer"
Nico and the Vols
Nico and the Vols
Posted on 4/29/25 at 12:24 pm to Wishbone85
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From #1 recruit to 7th round draft pick.
and lost to UGA twice in 1 year...
Posted on 4/29/25 at 12:36 pm to DawgCountry
The kid's last name isn't Manning. He was drafted according to his skill set. But he's not an NIL failure. Texas used him to build their team for the SEC, like they are using Manning. That is just good business to use the assets you have at your disposal.
Posted on 4/29/25 at 1:28 pm to 3down10
Hey look, he's still arguing the same argument he said he was done with 3 posts ago.
It doesn't matter what their motive is. He is getting paid for a service outside of playing football. That wold mean it's not pay for play.
I don't care if his NIL deals were "legit" or not. I'm just explaining that if a service was provided outside of playing football (which would be the only way a NIL deal is legit) then it's not pay for play.
There is no way a business can justify sending a check to a college kid without a service being done, however small the service is. That would be a red flag on an audit.
Quinn made a lot of social media posts (Rhoback, New Era, Panini, ect). Those are all NIL deals.
Arch has done Redbull, Vuori, Uber. The only NIL deal that I've seen them overlap on is Panini.
Maybe they've overlapped on more deals, but those are the only ones I can list off the top of my head. But that sure isn't Arch magically picking up the same deals
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You lost the debate when you pretended to know the motives of people/businesses. It's impossible that you do. I know it, you know, everyone who reads this thread knows it.
It doesn't matter what their motive is. He is getting paid for a service outside of playing football. That wold mean it's not pay for play.
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It's your emotions that are preventing you from admitting it because you want this weird fantasy that your QB was just magically getting only legit NIL deals.
I don't care if his NIL deals were "legit" or not. I'm just explaining that if a service was provided outside of playing football (which would be the only way a NIL deal is legit) then it's not pay for play.
There is no way a business can justify sending a check to a college kid without a service being done, however small the service is. That would be a red flag on an audit.
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And I'm sure it'll only be pure coincidence when the NIL deals stop and the next QB magically picks them up.
Quinn made a lot of social media posts (Rhoback, New Era, Panini, ect). Those are all NIL deals.
Arch has done Redbull, Vuori, Uber. The only NIL deal that I've seen them overlap on is Panini.
Maybe they've overlapped on more deals, but those are the only ones I can list off the top of my head. But that sure isn't Arch magically picking up the same deals
Posted on 4/29/25 at 1:35 pm to TexasOnTop
Manning has legit NIL simply because of his last name. Foolish to think otherwise
Posted on 4/29/25 at 1:39 pm to VABuckeye
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No. That original A&M class is NIL's biggest failure to date.
Jimbo Fisher said to the media very clearly that class did not receive NIL.
It was old fashioned bag dropping.
Posted on 4/29/25 at 1:47 pm to NobodyImportant
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Manning has legit NIL simply because of his last name. Foolish to think otherwise
Bryce Young had a bunch of legit NIL deals. Dr Pepper for example is going to a be legit one that we'll see often for popular school QBs. And there are others.
They exist for sure. But I doubt they pay millions. Manning would have gotten them at any school, but he'll probably get more at a school like Texas because of the combined factors.
Posted on 4/29/25 at 1:52 pm to TexasOnTop
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Hey look, he's still arguing the same argument he said he was done with 3 posts ago.
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You lost the debate when you pretended to know the motives of people/businesses. It's impossible that you do. I know it, you know, everyone who reads this thread knows it.
It doesn't matter what their motive is. He is getting paid for a service outside of playing football. That wold mean it's not pay for play.
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It's your emotions that are preventing you from admitting it because you want this weird fantasy that your QB was just magically getting only legit NIL deals.
I don't care if his NIL deals were "legit" or not. I'm just explaining that if a service was provided outside of playing football (which would be the only way a NIL deal is legit) then it's not pay for play.
There is no way a business can justify sending a check to a college kid without a service being done, however small the service is. That would be a red flag on an audit.
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And I'm sure it'll only be pure coincidence when the NIL deals stop and the next QB magically picks them up.
Quinn made a lot of social media posts (Rhoback, New Era, Panini, ect). Those are all NIL deals.
Arch has done Redbull, Vuori, Uber. The only NIL deal that I've seen them overlap on is Panini.
Maybe they've overlapped on more deals, but those are the only ones I can list off the top of my head. But that sure isn't Arch magically picking up the same deals
I'm not the NCAA trying to investigate you for violations, of which don't exist anyway since pay to play is legal now. There is no reason to pretend every deal outside a collective is just automatically "legit NIL" that is different than the collective. Some are, some aren't.
You're just stupid.
Posted on 4/29/25 at 2:26 pm to 3down10
Your 4th post since declaring you were done with the argument.
I'm going to try and put this in as simple of terms as I can. If a business pays an athlete, a service must be provided. A business handing over a large amount of cash to a college athlete for no reason would raise flags.
This isn't a tough concept to get. I'm gonna give you the benefit of doubt and assume if you weren't so emotionally invested in being "right", you'd understand how silly you sound.
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I'm not the NCAA trying to investigate you for violations, of which don't exist anyway since pay to play is legal now. There is no reason to pretend every deal outside a collective is just automatically "legit NIL" that is different than the collective. Some are, some aren't.
I'm going to try and put this in as simple of terms as I can. If a business pays an athlete, a service must be provided. A business handing over a large amount of cash to a college athlete for no reason would raise flags.
This isn't a tough concept to get. I'm gonna give you the benefit of doubt and assume if you weren't so emotionally invested in being "right", you'd understand how silly you sound.
Posted on 4/29/25 at 3:26 pm to TexasOnTop
quote:you are arguing with a wall
TexasOnTop
The user you’re currently engaging with swears up and down that Billy Napier is a great coach
That’s all you need to know
Posted on 4/29/25 at 3:37 pm to theCAW
Quinn wanted his legacy to be at Texas.
When his playing days are over, he will be welcomed back to Austin, and Texas will have a spot for him.
Plus he will never be able to pay for his own drink/dinner in a bar/ restaurant again.
Longhorn for life.
When his playing days are over, he will be welcomed back to Austin, and Texas will have a spot for him.
Plus he will never be able to pay for his own drink/dinner in a bar/ restaurant again.
Longhorn for life.
Posted on 4/29/25 at 5:27 pm to theCAW
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you are arguing with a wall
The user you’re currently engaging with swears up and down that Billy Napier is a great coach
That’s all you need to know
That's not what I've said. I said he's improved every school he's been at thus far, and that includes Florida which makes him a good hire.
You should change your name to theCRY.
Posted on 4/29/25 at 5:32 pm to narddogg81
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Is Ewers the biggest example so far of NIL failure?
I'm rolling with this undrafted player...
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