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re: Is Ed's 7+ million per year contract guaranteed for all 6 years?

Posted on 1/24/20 at 11:29 am to
Posted by LSUNV
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Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 1/24/20 at 11:29 am to
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LSU fans, ladies and gentlemen


At least I am honest and not trolling like yourself. Admit it, you are useless
Posted by JeauxGeauxt2020
Member since Jan 2020
79 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 11:36 am to
Did you say 75?
Posted by Auburn80
Backwater, TN
Member since Nov 2017
9594 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 11:42 am to
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Literally 85 and 93 years after the fact. Most Gay&M shite ever


Don't forget that Alabama did that also. Bear Bryant got a congratulatory letter for winning Alabama's first National Championship. Suddenly in the 80's, the SID decided they won more, including that horrendous 1941 year.
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
19408 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 11:44 am to
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Actually he isn’t like Chiz at all. Ed inherited a mess.

Pretty sure Chiz inherited a much bigger mess than Ed:

AU Record/AP Ranking, 2005-2008
9-3 (7-1) #14
11-2 (6-2) #9
9-4 (4-4) #15
5-7 (2-6) NR

LSU 2012-2015
10-3 (6-2) #14
10-3 (5-3) #14
8-5 (4-4) NR
9-3 (5-3) #16

AU Recruiting Rankings, 2005-2008
16 (1 *****, 7 ****)
11 (1 *****, 14 ****)
8 (0 *****, 13 ****)
23 (1 *****, 4 ****)

LSU Recruiting Rankings, 2012-2015
22 (0 *****, 9 ****)
6 (2 *****, 15 ****)
2 (2 *****, 15 ****)
8 (4 *****, 8 ****)
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Brought in his staff and players.
Not so much, at least in comparison to Chiz:

AU staff heldover from 2008-2009
DB Phillip Lolley (formerly off-field NFL liason)

LSU staff heldover from 2016-2017:
HC Ed Orgeron (formerly DL)
DC Dave Aranda
DB Cory Raymond
OLB Dennis Johnson (formerly GA)
OL Jeff Grimes
TE Steve Ensminger

So it appears that Ed inherited a solid program that routinely competed for the SEC West, was loaded with top talent, and kept the core of the existing coaching staff (of which he had been a part). Chiz took over a program in full-on collapse, had a serious talent deficit compared to the upper echelon of the SEC, and brought in an entirely new set of assistants.

I like Orgeron, and I think he will certainly perform better than Chiz did. But to suggest that they arrived when their respective programs were in a similar condition is ludicrous.
Posted by Box Geauxrilla
Member since Jun 2013
19194 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 11:46 am to
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So it appears that Ed inherited a solid program that routinely competed for the SEC West, was loaded with top talent, and kept the core of the existing coaching staff (of which he had been a part). Chiz took over a program in full-on collapse, had a serious talent deficit compared to the upper echelon of the SEC, and brought in an entirely new set of assistants.


Okay okay, you're right. LSU's program is superior to Auburn's in every way.
Posted by bbrownso
Member since Mar 2008
8985 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 11:46 am to
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, but Jimbo Fisher's career record is 100-32, which is a winning pct of more than 75%. Orgeron is 56-36, which is winning pct of about 60%.

How do the records look for the last 2 years (since that's how long Jimbo has been in the SEC)?

Last 2 years:
Ed O: 25-3 - .893 winning pct.

Jimbo: 17-9 - .654 winning pct.
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
33201 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 11:47 am to
Oh, what a glorious melty melt
Posted by Harry Morgan
Member since Sep 2019
10340 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 11:50 am to
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I like Orgeron, and I think he will certainly perform better than Chiz did. But to suggest that they arrived when their respective programs were in a similar condition is ludicrous.

Agreed. Auburn is definitely inferior to LSU.
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
34646 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 11:51 am to
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Don't forget, they have cups and a painting!
Bruh. They engraved it into rings
Posted by hg
Member since Jun 2009
127437 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 11:55 am to
Literally just won titles in the toughest division and conference in America plus the whole national title thing. Sorry Jimbo sucks arse
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
19408 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 11:55 am to
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Okay okay, you're right. LSU's program is superior to Auburn's in every way.
At this point in time, and perhaps for the foreseeable future, I'd be inclined to agree.

Congrats on your success. It's really gratifying to see a guy like Eaux, who battled his way up from the bottom rungs of the profession, to be rewarded for his hard work - especially with so many detractors on his own side when he was hired.

LSU's football future with Eaux is very bright. I hope one day that AU's will provide reason for such justifiable optimism.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
100032 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 11:55 am to
At least LSU made him prove himself first, and gave a contract with a reasonable time frame.

Aggie guaranteed 7.5 mil for 10 fricking years without even seeing if the guy can win at A&M. And coaching tenures average way less than 10 years at any given program. What y’all did was retarded
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
100032 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 11:57 am to
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We handcuffed ourselves to a proven commodity - a guy who had won year after year after year, calling his own plays, leading multiple great offenses.


Jimbo average about 4 losses in every season he coached without Winston at QB
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
71113 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 12:02 pm to
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At least LSU made him prove himself first, and gave a contract with a reasonable time frame.

Aggie guaranteed 7.5 mil for 10 fricking years without even seeing if the guy can win at A&M. And coaching tenures average way less than 10 years at any given program. What y’all did was retarded


The problem with Jimbo's contract was when he got it. Had he been offered a 10 year mega-deal a year or so after he won a national title, I don't think anyone would have thought it to be insane. But the fact that he had performed progressively worse (his last season at 5-6 when he left) made a lot of people wonder why the hell A&M would do that. Also, the length of his contract is the worst part about it.
This post was edited on 1/24/20 at 12:02 pm
Posted by Rabid Tiger
New York, NY
Member since Sep 2003
3694 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 12:08 pm to
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We handcuffed ourselves to a proven commodity - a guy who had won year after year after year, calling his own plays, leading multiple great offenses.


Our commitment was to a coach that has already won a National Championship FOR LSU. GOAT season on top of that.

Your commitment was to a coach that won a National Championship for Florida State.

We're good. Aggie should go worry about bringing that 1939 championship team back on campus for the 90th anniversary celebration.



This post was edited on 1/24/20 at 12:12 pm
Posted by SHBlake79
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Aug 2008
1757 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 12:14 pm to
If LSU locks up Ed O after winning Natty and putting together an amazing staff that had one of the best seasons ever then they handcuffed themselves with a Larry Coker or Gene Chizik

Then some tell you why couldn’t they pay him more???

We all know that if LSU refuses to pay O and he left for another school then LSU would be hearing about how they are completely done and their entire coaching staff is gone.

Just shut up everyone and go ahead and proclaim your offseason championship for the next 9 months. September will come around soon enough
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
124852 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 12:16 pm to
I’m unclear of the point you’re attempting to make.
Posted by SHBlake79
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Aug 2008
1757 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 12:17 pm to
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I’m unclear of the point you’re attempting to make.


Jealous losers on this board create a negative narrative on this board for LSU no matter what they do
Posted by Grit-Eating Shin
You're an Idiot
Member since May 2013
8547 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 12:36 pm to
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a guy who had won year after year after year

Except for that year where he went 5-6 before you idiots threw Fort Knox at him.
Posted by GeauxTigerNation
Member since 1988
Member since Nov 2013
13429 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 12:40 pm to
Another backfired dumbass A&M thread.
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