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re: Is Avery Johnson's contract really 6 years 18 million?
Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:52 am to therick711
Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:52 am to therick711
I posted something to the OP. Then you come at me with some bullshite like I was talking to you. You aren't having an intellectual dialectic if you're saying to someone they are so fricking dumb like you just said to 14 & Counting. FFS get a clue.
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Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:53 am to joeyb147
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If what UA chooses to pay their coaches matters so much to you, then you must be absolutely mortified that Auburn chooses to pay million upon millions for coaaches NOT to coach at AU.
quote:I know what UA is paying Grant, and good ridance.
Not sure why this was brought up, but 'bama is currently paying Anthony Grant 4mil+ not to coach at UA.
It was brought up because therick is apparently appalled because he thinks UA overpaid AJohnson. Why does it matter what UA AD pays their coaches?
I asked how he felt about AU paying out the arse for multiple coaches in multiple sports to NOT coach at AU.
As a rival fan to both UA & AU, surely it bothers him just as much if not more since AU's AD has reportedly been operating in the red for two years - while UA's AD operates with a large surplus.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:54 am to RT1941
Keep it civil in my thread or else I will shut this thing down.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:56 am to therick711
I really don't care what we pay AJ. If he has any success at all, $3 mil/year will be a bargain. We've made one tournament in the last 9 years and we're still one of the top 15 profitable programs.
This post was edited on 4/7/15 at 10:59 am
Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:56 am to Robin Masters
You weren't the slightest bit interested in why it can't be determined from that data (you apparently haven't identified the issue yourself)? I would figure a numbers guy who took time to find that information would be interested in that. Oh, well. 
Also, just because another school might not make good decisions, doesn't change the fact that Alabama did what it did on its own merit using its own process. That is what this thread is about. So by all means, point to other bad acts to justify it if you like.
Also, just because another school might not make good decisions, doesn't change the fact that Alabama did what it did on its own merit using its own process. That is what this thread is about. So by all means, point to other bad acts to justify it if you like.
This post was edited on 4/7/15 at 10:59 am
Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:58 am to pvilleguru
That's just because football fans buy basketball tickets to get more elephant points and raise their tide seating status.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:59 am to pvilleguru
Therick711 lecturing Bill frickin Battle about business negotiations is about like ThatLSUboy trying to explain defense to Nick Saban. 
Posted on 4/7/15 at 11:00 am to therick711
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You weren't the slightest bit interested in why it can't be determined from that data (you apparently haven't identified the issue yourself)? I would figure a numbers guy who took time to find that information would be interested in that. Oh, well.
You are, based on anecdotal evidence of what we pay one coach, convinced that we are fools easily separated from our money. Now that I present actual figures to the contrary you suddenly require more info. You've revealed all I need to know about you.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 11:01 am to Eric Nies Grind Time
quote:So? Still counts. They sure aren't going to stop bying the tickets if we get better.
That's just because football fans buy basketball tickets to get more elephant points and raise their tide seating status.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 11:01 am to JuiceTerry
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Therick711 lecturing Bill frickin Battle about business negotiations is about like ThatLSUboy trying to explain defense to Nick Saban.
If your best (and apparently only) argument is a bare appeal to authority, you have already lost.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 11:03 am to Robin Masters
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You are, based on anecdotal evidence of what we pay one coach, convinced that we are fools easily separated from our money. Now that I present actual figures to the contrary you suddenly require more info. You've revealed all I need to know about you.
Nothing that you just posted makes a lick of sense. Actually, I think the individual posters here are easily separated from their money based on the arguments they make. I think the AD made a mistake. You keep going on and on, but yet you aren't understanding anything. Those two numbers are meaningless without accounting for the academic obligations within them. It could be that both are very similar, it could be that one is better than the other. Without knowing the expenses that come from mandatory giving to the academic side, the numbers are useless.
This post was edited on 4/7/15 at 11:05 am
Posted on 4/7/15 at 11:04 am to AU4real35
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It's called negotiating... The guy has zero collegiate experience( helps you negotiate)... Nobody was knocking down his door to coach at the collegiate level...So you'd rather take a total gamble and pay him 3 mill over 6 years... Makes no sense and I hope you're not a business owner...
Nope not a business owner. In fact only took one business class in all my time at UA. The guy who did make the decision is a very successful business owner however. I'm just speaking from a fan perspective. I have no clue how the negotiation went down. Neither do you. Like I said earlier, every coaching hire is a gamble. Marshall would have been a gamble. Of course AJ is as well. I have no idea what AJs market value or asking price was prior to the deal being signed. I'll mantain that it would appear to be an overpayment right now, but could turn out to be a very good deal for Alabama. I'll also maintain I would rather pay more for AJ than pay market for Prohm. Maybe this deal will blow up in our face and set us back years. That would suck, but at least we are trying to hit a big hire instead of a safe boring one. I'd rather our AD take high risk, high reward hires than safe, lukewarm ones.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 11:07 am to Robin Masters
Why is it that people are pissed that most Bama fans are pleased with this hire?
Posted on 4/7/15 at 11:07 am to Patton
I agree. I'm way more excited about getting AJ for 3 mil than Prohm for 1 mil.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 11:08 am to bamarep
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Why is it that people are pissed that most Bama fans are pleased with this hire?
Because you mistake people being amused by the perceived over payment and arguing their position as caring what Bama fans think about the hire. It is a simple misunderstanding on your part.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 11:09 am to Eric Nies Grind Time
quote:Then it's safe to say that if Avery Johnson can put a better product on the court than Anthony Grant the ticket sales and revenue will increase?
That's just because football fans buy basketball tickets to get more elephant points and raise their tide seating status.
Cha-Ching! And in the process, raised the price of doin bidness in the SEC.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 11:14 am to therick711
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Because you mistake people being amused by the perceived over payment and arguing their position as caring what Bama fans think about the hire. It is a simple misunderstanding on your par
Oh, now its a "perceived overpayment"?
Earlier in the thread you said Bill Battle was "inept".
Dude, just stop.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 11:15 am to Robin Masters
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Oh, now its a "perceived overpayment"?
Earlier in the thread you said Bill Battle was "inept".
Dude, just stop.
I think he's overpaid. I'm trying to be neutral for the new guy. If you don't like it, you better learn to love it. He is inept. See my post describing how stupid his flirtation with Marshall was. I didn't see a single poster refute it or the conclusions therein.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 11:19 am to therick711
Why was his flirtation with Marshall stupid?
Posted on 4/7/15 at 11:21 am to Patton
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Why was his flirtation with Marshall stupid?
The post was on the last page, so I won't repost it here. Just to clarify, wanting Marshall wasn't stupid. The way the Department handled it was inept.
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