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re: Is Alabama's dynasty just LUCK?

Posted on 6/8/18 at 9:43 pm to
Posted by iglass
North Alabama
Member since Apr 2012
2917 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 9:43 pm to
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BowlJackson
There's always a degree of luck involved when you have that much success, to say otherwise is just arrogant.

But its not possible to have that much success and sustain it at an elite level over such a long period of time and have it be JUST luck. To suggest that is 100x more stupid than to say there was none.

But I will say that Bama's dynasty had a huge outside boost right at the very beginning that doesn't get talked about and a positive impact on the start of their dynasty.
That's the media coverage of Saban and Bama. Right from Day 1 ESPN and all the sports media outlets, and all the local media immediately anointed Saban as the savior, immediately proclaimed Bama as back. People get annoyed by how the media blows Saban and Bama now, but it was just as bad if not worse at the start when everything was still new. Everything that Saban did, every single recruit that committed, it was all over covered and ESPN was basically just 24/7 coverage of giving Saban blow jobs.

We all know Saban is probably tGOAT, but I think even the most homer of Bama fans will admit that Saban wins by having more talent than anybody else, and that what makes Saban elite is his ability to stockpile all that talent.
Thats why it was so huge that the media immediately created that perception for Saban and Bama. There's no telling how much of an instant impact that had on the recruiting trail and how much faster that allowed Saban to build his powerhouse.



hmmmm

Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 9:44 pm to
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Saban has his only undefeated team with Shula’s players.


How sad

He can't develop his own players?
Posted by Rohan Gravy
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2017
18003 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 9:44 pm to
Agree...
Not to mention the Miami Dolphins/Drew Brees thing.
Oh....and the refs! :)
Posted by Herman Frisco
Bon Secour
Member since Sep 2008
17268 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 9:46 pm to
Luck= preparation + opportunity.


And no one does it better.
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 9:52 pm to
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Luck= preparation + opportunity.


And no one does it better.


Which is basically a tl:dr version of my original post in this thread
Posted by Rohan Gravy
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2017
18003 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 9:53 pm to
Luck = preparation + opportunity + dodge chargers + referees

What’s up Herman! :)
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
95899 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 9:54 pm to
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Should I google image search this?
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26957 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 9:57 pm to
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Everything that Saban did, every single recruit that committed, it was all over covered and ESPN was basically just 24/7 coverage of giving Saban blow jobs.


This is just wrong; ESPN and the press in general hammered Saban initially because he had said he was not taking the Alabama job. It took a while - and the success of his second season (2008) - for them to realize the Bama/Saban partnership had a chance to be special.




And let's not forget all the ones who tried to say that Saban was the Larry Brown of college football and would be gone in 2 years.
This post was edited on 6/8/18 at 9:58 pm
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26957 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 10:02 pm to
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Saban has his only undefeated team with Shula’s players.


It's just not fair that Shula never got to coach Julio, Ingram, Richardson, Barron, and Mt. Cody after working so hard to get them on campus.
This post was edited on 6/8/18 at 10:06 pm
Posted by Herman Frisco
Bon Secour
Member since Sep 2008
17268 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 10:03 pm to
It wasn’t always Chargers.
Posted by Herman Frisco
Bon Secour
Member since Sep 2008
17268 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 10:10 pm to
Julio was sabans I’m fairly sure. 08.
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 10:15 pm to
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It's just not fair that Shula never got to coach Julio, Ingram, Richardson, Barron, and Mt. Cody after working so hard to get them on campus.


Shula never would have coached Julio anyway. iirc, Auburn was the favorite for Julio and Upshaw until Saban was hired
Posted by Decker
Member since Nov 2015
3435 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 10:19 pm to
2008 - Tim Tebow, trailing in the 4th quarter of the SEC championship, decides to become an accurate passer, coming back to defeat Alabama and denying Saban his first championship

2013 - numerous plays should have ended the Iron Bowl well before the kick six.

2014 - Cardale Jones is inhabited by Tom Brady

2016 - refs lose their flags, can't call blatant offensive interference

Alabama should have 9 titles under Saban. Bad luck has stopped us from being a true dynasty.
Posted by CBandits82
Lurker since May 2008
Member since May 2012
54081 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 10:24 pm to
I'm just here to say Auburn lost to Ed last year LMAO.
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 10:31 pm to
Bama got worked from start to finish by the team that lost to Ed 0
Posted by bamaboy87
Member since Jan 2009
15163 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 10:45 pm to
I thought Oklahoma was the favorite for Julio. It's been a while obviously so I don't remember much, but I seem to remember Oklahoma being the main one in contention for him other than Alabama
Posted by Sid E Walker
InsecureU ©
Member since Nov 2013
23884 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 10:51 pm to
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How sad

He can't develop his own players?

Sort of like Gus and QBs, eh?
Posted by Herman Frisco
Bon Secour
Member since Sep 2008
17268 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 11:18 pm to
We both won the game that mattered the most to our teams.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58907 posts
Posted on 6/9/18 at 6:21 am to
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2012 got beat inside BDS by johnny football and had the luck of one of those famous UGA choke jobs. Kansas State and Oregon both was 11-1 but Bama got in over them



quote:

2017 didnt win the west again and needed a 2nd and 26 UGA choke job



After 2013 and 2017, I can't believe an Auburn fan wants to talk about luck or choke jobs!


Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58907 posts
Posted on 6/9/18 at 6:22 am to
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Auburn got worked from start to finish by the team that lost to Alabama


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