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re: In honor of Vince Dooley’s passing: Winningest SEC coaches
Posted on 10/28/22 at 9:09 pm to Vols&Shaft83
Posted on 10/28/22 at 9:09 pm to Vols&Shaft83
Bryant was driving to take the head coach job at Arkansas when the Pearl Harbor attack news came across the radio... he then turned it down and joined the Navy instead.
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Posted on 10/28/22 at 9:11 pm to Godawgs4
4 of top 7 coached at Alabama… just saying
Posted on 10/28/22 at 9:20 pm to cmayes56
I left out Toledo, but he has 15 complete seasons at Bama. Regardless, Saban is the best coach of his time. Bear is a legend and a much tougher individual, but based on win percentage alone, Saban has the edge.
This post was edited on 10/28/22 at 9:21 pm
Posted on 10/28/22 at 9:21 pm to Tuscaloosa
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Thank goodness for the forward pass.
Hey Dickless, the forward pass was made legal in 1906, and was widely used by 1913. Before Neyland became a head coach.
So SHUT YOUR CUNT MOUTH
Posted on 10/28/22 at 9:44 pm to Vols&Shaft83
"Ne'er has anything sullied the great name of this sport worse than the forward pass." - Robert Neyland
Posted on 10/28/22 at 9:53 pm to Ghost of Colby
RIP coach.
Posted on 10/28/22 at 10:01 pm to RTRcdub
Saban teams play 12 reg season games, Bryant never coached more than 12 in a complete season counting bowls. Before the 70’s only 11 total. So not as many rent-a-wins
If Bryant had coached in the playoff era..
‘50 KY
‘56 A&M
‘61,62,64,65,66,71,72,73,74,75,77,78,79 Bama teams all go to playoffs.
That 15 appearances in playoff..
13 in 25 years at Alabama.
I love coach Saban.. but without the BCS or CFP format.. he only has 4 titles.
His Lsu team doesn’t win it.. USC won the AP
His 2011 (rematch) 2015 (Clemson would have played in Orange) and 2018 (4th team in) don’t win the NC..
So yeah, Saban is great.. but I count Bryant as at least his equal
If Bryant had coached in the playoff era..
‘50 KY
‘56 A&M
‘61,62,64,65,66,71,72,73,74,75,77,78,79 Bama teams all go to playoffs.
That 15 appearances in playoff..
13 in 25 years at Alabama.
I love coach Saban.. but without the BCS or CFP format.. he only has 4 titles.
His Lsu team doesn’t win it.. USC won the AP
His 2011 (rematch) 2015 (Clemson would have played in Orange) and 2018 (4th team in) don’t win the NC..
So yeah, Saban is great.. but I count Bryant as at least his equal
This post was edited on 10/28/22 at 10:04 pm
Posted on 10/28/22 at 10:12 pm to Dawgfanman
My bad there. Was not thinking about him. But he is on his way to being a legendary coach at Georgia as well along with Richt and Dooley.
Posted on 10/28/22 at 10:49 pm to Tuscaloosa
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LSU fired this guy
He did get worse
Posted on 10/28/22 at 11:22 pm to Ghost of Colby
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5) Dan McGugin, Vanderbilt: 197
Dude must have worked there for seventy years. You'd think he might be better known.
Posted on 10/29/22 at 12:56 am to Ghost of Colby
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Dan McGugin, Vanderbilt
This man gave the greatest Southern pre-game pep talk that has ever been, or will ever be given. Sometime in the 19 teens Michigan, who was the acknowledged national powerhouse of the day, came down to play Vandy as the opening game for Vandy's new stadium. McGugin, who was himself from the Midwest, spoke to his team just before the opening kick. He pointed to the nearby Confederate Memorial Cemetery. "Men," he said, "there lie the bones of your grandfathers." He then pointed to the Michigan team across the field. "And there are the grandsons of the men who put them there."
Vandy managed a very unexpected tie against the Wolverines that day.
Posted on 10/29/22 at 1:25 am to psk_Vol
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Also people often forget, but General Neyland had his coaching career at Tennessee interrupted for military service. He lost like 6 or 7 football seasons while he was serving this country overseas fighting Nazis and commies.
Fighting Nazis, yes. Commies, no. If anything he fought alongside the commies -- all of the allies did. That's how much the world changed post-WWII.
Posted on 10/29/22 at 3:04 am to Prof
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Fighting Nazis, yes. Commies, no. If anything he fought alongside the commies -- all of the allies did. That's how much the world changed post-WWII.
Yes. Including commies was meant as a rhetorical expression, rather than a proclamation of historical accuracy. Although it is surprising he avoided fighting commies in Korea a few years later. Maybe he retired with honors by then, idk. Without googling anything, I'm pretty sure Neyland was mostly, if not entirely, assigned to the Northern African theatre of WW2
Posted on 10/29/22 at 5:18 am to psk_Vol
quote:Have you forgotten where you are?
I'd like to think any coach who uses "General" as a title instead of "Coach" can only pull that off if they are indeed some type of General in a military. Would be incredibly weird and douchey if someone wanted to be called "General" despite not being an actual general
This place is (and our country) is not known for the mental giants that inhabit it.
Posted on 10/29/22 at 5:28 am to psk_Vol
quote:He retired from the military in 1946. He graduated West Point and was commissioned in 1916.
Although it is surprising he avoided fighting commies in Korea a few years later. Maybe he retired with honors by then, idk.
quote:Neyland served in the China-Burma-India Theater, supervising the transportation of material through monsoons and across the Himalayas to the troops commanded by General "Vinegar" Joe Stillwell.
I'm pretty sure Neyland was mostly, if not entirely, assigned to the Northern African theatre of WW2
Fun fact about Neyland. Jim Thorpe was considered the greatest athlete of the first half century. Many people considered Neyland the second greatest athlete.
He was captain of the West Point football team and a star lineman.
He was a 20 game winner as a pitcher on the baseball team.
He was the West Point heavyweight boxing champion.
The National League baseball New York Giants offered him a $3,500 contract, which he turned down. (that was big money back then)
Posted on 10/29/22 at 5:59 am to SavageOrangeJug
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Neyland served in the China-Burma-India Theater, supervising the transportation of material through monsoons and across the Himalayas to the troops commanded by General "Vinegar" Joe Stillwell.
Interesting. Neyland, Shug, and Bear all served during WWII. Shug was a major, in the engineers. He went ashore in North Africa, Normandy, and Okinawa. He was wounded in Normandy.
Shug lettered in football, baseball, and basketball as a student at Auburn, and I believe he led the conference in scoring in basketball. He coached basketball at Auburn for 10 years and had a good run.
Posted on 10/29/22 at 6:18 am to cmayes56
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So yeah, Saban is great.. but I count Bryant as at least his equal
THis is incorrect.
In years Saban doesn't win the Nat'l Title, Alabama is still ranked in top 2-3. During Saban era @ Alabama, he has dominated the sport ... no other program is close.
This can't be said of Alabama under Bryant. Several other programs had similar success.
Posted on 10/29/22 at 6:48 am to Ghost of Colby
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And that doesn’t include Bear’s 25 wins while at A&M.
it should be amended to include it; now that aTm is SEC, at least w an asterisk
Posted on 10/29/22 at 6:52 am to johnnydrama
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Dude must have worked there for seventy years. You'd think he might be better known.
we make fun of Auburn for being tied w Vandy in their all time series (it was even more fun when they were behind...)
that guys is the reason...
Posted on 10/29/22 at 7:15 am to cmayes56
You are not counting some of Bear's wins at Maryland. Add those in to the total.
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