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Posted on 8/16/19 at 7:48 pm to Vecchio Cane
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Do away with divisions and just play a rotating 10 game SEC schedule. Alternate Home/Away with teams in back to back years
This, except you only need 8 SEC games.
Posted on 8/16/19 at 7:49 pm to RD Dawg
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How exactly are you gonna choose the "top 2 teams"?
1. Conference Record
2. H2H Tie Breakers
3. Playoff rankings
Posted on 8/16/19 at 7:52 pm to BurgTiger
Tn. & Ala. didn't mind in the 90's-2000's.
This post was edited on 8/16/19 at 7:53 pm
Posted on 8/16/19 at 7:55 pm to 3down10
Lack of common opponents not a problem?
Posted on 8/16/19 at 7:56 pm to 3down10
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. Conference Record
2. H2H Tie Breakers
Would if the have the same record and hadn't played each other?How bout a 3 way tie with each team having one loss vs the other?
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Playoff rankings
Screw a "ranking" metric completely.
Posted on 8/16/19 at 8:33 pm to southernboisb
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Lack of common opponents not a problem?
Not really. If you figure 8 games that leaves only 5 total teams that any 1 team won't play in a year.
The odds of 2 teams getting exactly that max amount are pretty low.
And even at the max, it's still more than what you get currently between division teams which is 2. Yeah I know everyone in a division plays each other, but if you are talking about just the top2 teams that play each other - currently they have almost no common opponents.
Plus there is no reason to ignore history in this. You generally wouldn't start a team on a rotation that had an easy schedule while some other team got nothing but difficult ones.
Posted on 8/16/19 at 8:34 pm to RD Dawg
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Screw a "ranking" metric completely.
Then don't lose and it won't go that far.
You know what sucks worse? When Mizzou made the SECCG while there were a shite ton of better teams in the conference.
This post was edited on 8/16/19 at 8:35 pm
Posted on 8/16/19 at 8:41 pm to RD Dawg
Posted on 8/16/19 at 8:44 pm to Gatorbait2008
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Naw. We want LSU every year. Far to good of a game to get away from.
Yeah, with the way neutral site games are going, I'd like to see LSU keep the Florida game.
At least with that game, you know more often than not that will be a good game.
ETA: I would also like to see a 9 game schedule. Tired of watching LSU beat up on shitty programs.
This post was edited on 8/16/19 at 8:45 pm
Posted on 8/16/19 at 8:48 pm to wadewilson
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I would also like to see a 9 game schedule.
I dislike going more than 8. It doesn't benefit the conference at all to play more than that.
Instead we should hope to start seeing 2 high quality OOC games instead of the 1 that is normal now.
Posted on 8/16/19 at 9:04 pm to USCrown
They could go to an 11 game schedule
9 conference games
1 P5 game
1 Cream puff for HC
Flip flop Auburn and Missouri
Have 2 permanent rivals and 1 rotating.
Rotation is 1-6,2-7,3-8,4-9,5-10 so that you play each team once every 5 years and twice every 10 years.
16 team play off.
10 conference champions 5 P5 and 5 G5 plus six at large P5 teams.
Play first round at higher seeded campus.
Remaining 7 games would use the biggest bowls for the final 8 teams.
Additionally, have 10 Bowl games for the teams outside the top 16 teams.
So that would give you 36 teams making postseason. On other words you would have to earn it.
Regular season becomes more important and every game counts but if you lose one/two games you still have a chance. Schedule strength much better across the board.
9 conference games
1 P5 game
1 Cream puff for HC
Flip flop Auburn and Missouri
Have 2 permanent rivals and 1 rotating.
Rotation is 1-6,2-7,3-8,4-9,5-10 so that you play each team once every 5 years and twice every 10 years.
16 team play off.
10 conference champions 5 P5 and 5 G5 plus six at large P5 teams.
Play first round at higher seeded campus.
Remaining 7 games would use the biggest bowls for the final 8 teams.
Additionally, have 10 Bowl games for the teams outside the top 16 teams.
So that would give you 36 teams making postseason. On other words you would have to earn it.
Regular season becomes more important and every game counts but if you lose one/two games you still have a chance. Schedule strength much better across the board.
Posted on 8/16/19 at 9:34 pm to 3down10
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Then don't lose and it won't go that far
What?This can't be serious response.
Gee,let's just go back to the pre plàyoff days and have folks vote on the NC.Makes about as much sense as telling a team "not to lose" if the want to avoid subjective ranking situation.
Posted on 8/16/19 at 9:41 pm to southernboisb
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1 problem - SEC WILL NOT put teams from the SAME state in DIFFERENT divisions.
Why not? What would keep them from doing so provided Bama and Auburn were permanent interdivisional opponents.
Hell, there could actually be Iron Bowl rematches in Atlanta once in a blue moon.
Posted on 8/16/19 at 10:04 pm to twk
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Get rid of divisions. Keep the 8 game schedule. Like basketball, each team has 3 opponents that it plays every year, and you rotate the other 10, five one year, the other five the next.
The permanent opponents would be something like this:
Bama: Auburn, State, UT
Arkansas: Mizzou, A&M, LSU
Auburn: Bama UF, UGA
Florida: Auburn, UGA, USC
UGA: USC, UF, Auburn
Kentucky: Mizzou, UT, MSU
LSU: A&M, Ole Miss, Arkansas
Ole Miss: State, LSU, Vandy
Miss. State: Ole Miss, Bama, UK
Missouri: Arkansas, A&M, UK
South Carolina: UGA, UF, Vandy
Tenn: Vandy, UK, Bama
A&M: LSU, Arkansas, Mizzou
Vandy: UT, Ole Miss, USC
You'd need a slight tweak of the NCAA rule on championship games, but they did it for the Big XII, so it would be no problem. It would eliminate the divisional imbalance that has resulted in championship game mismatches. Would increase the possibility of a rematch? I don't think so, because you'd be saying that the team who lost the regular season matchup is a game better than the rest of the league, so that probably wouldn't happen too often (no more than it does with the current arrangement).
This is the best somewhat realistic solution.
Posted on 8/17/19 at 12:26 am to twk
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You'd need a slight tweak of the NCAA rule on championship games, but they did it for the Big XII, so it would be no problem.
As I understand it, the rule change for the Big12 applies to everyone and allows for this to happen anyway.
Posted on 8/17/19 at 2:17 am to 3down10
The rule change allows for conferences with less than 12 teams to okay a CCG; but the champion has to be decided by round robin play full conference or divide into divisions and have round robin play to decide division champions
Set aside divisions; would be something completely different... but I do think it would be better; I would assume most conferences would do this. It would assure that their top 2 teams with playoff hopes meet in CCG.
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Set aside divisions; would be something completely different... but I do think it would be better; I would assume most conferences would do this. It would assure that their top 2 teams with playoff hopes meet in CCG.
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Posted on 8/17/19 at 5:07 am to 3rddownonthe8
This isnt cancer. The solutions already exist. JFC...end the dumbass permanents and just rotate the goddamned schedules. This really isnt that fricking hard.
Posted on 8/17/19 at 6:57 am to USCrown
Auburn, Georgia, LSU, Florida, bama, and Tennessee......these are all traditionally strong teams.
ole miss gets vandy.
State gets Kentucky.
Aggie gets South Carolina.
Arky gets......well it doesn’t matter who arky gets.
Tennessee is traditionally better then they are right now. So bama is getting a weak arse team every year.
Looking at this from an SEC west standpoint Auburn and LSU have a tougher road then the other teams
ole miss gets vandy.
State gets Kentucky.
Aggie gets South Carolina.
Arky gets......well it doesn’t matter who arky gets.
Tennessee is traditionally better then they are right now. So bama is getting a weak arse team every year.
Looking at this from an SEC west standpoint Auburn and LSU have a tougher road then the other teams
Posted on 8/17/19 at 7:14 am to southernboisb
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Was it fair when TN kept beating Ala?
That was 1995-2006 Tennessee went 10-2 in that time span only losing to Bama in 2002 and 2005. Everything has changed since 2006 in ncaa football. With the playoffs now and us adding A&M and Missouri. So I don’t compare the arguments of fairness to be similar.
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