re: I'm not sold on Georgia

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2012 Florida was monumentally more talented than this Carolina team, particularly in defense.

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Yeah, people really don't understand how much raw talent Muschamp either failed to develop or just outright mismanaged. Even so, he used his offense to keep the defense well rested and it was less about scoring points, more about shortening the game.

I personally think Muschamp defenses are woefully overrated, and I think McElwain setting the defensive record for least amount of yards ever by Florida (FCS and FBS included) speaks more volumes than anything else.

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Yeah, people really don't understand how much raw talent Muschamp either failed to develop or just outright mismanaged.

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How did fail to "develop"? He coached/recruited tons of
defensive players that were drafted including multiple
#1's.

I'm not sold on Georgia because they ALWAYS shite the bed.


Usually in Jacksonville.

Let’s say Georgia took a step back. Even with a step back they would be a step ahead of LSU.


Thread over

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Are you saying the vols and gators should be consistently better than uga?

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huh?

No, I'm saying that UF and UT being better (better meaning improved from prior years) football programs could impact UGA's ability to pile up high win totals every year.

Although I certainly think there is an argument that UF should be on UGA's level, or higher, considering it's a big, well funded school with relatively recent history of high football success in a wealthy, high-talent state. There's obviously no similar argument for Tennessee.

When you look at the most practical considerations (not historical achievement or intangibles), UF and UGA should probably top the SEC in football potential.

Thanks for the clarification.

While it is probably a bit of reach to say they'll win the National Title...they have a schedule IMO that sets up well to keep all their goals in front of them. People forget these are kids and it isn't easy to keep fighting just for the sake of winning a game when you realize the goals you have aren't reachable anymore.

They have holes to fill as every team does, but they are talented. They have a QB IMO that has proven to be a gamer. I suspect if they don't stumble early they will be a serious contender for the SEC and a playoff birth again. An early stumble or two could derail the season (i.e. 9 wins vs 12 or 13) because playing for pride at the end of the season is easier said than done at this level.

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I think reading much into UCF is a mistake, considering we had no interest being there

But the fact is we used up everything we had by the time we got to the SECCG. I think at full strength we were a championship caliber team, but I doubt we would have won the CFP even if we'd gotten past UGA in the rematch.

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I agree. I was at the UCF game. Our crowd and players tried to be into it, but it was obvious every Auburn fan, staffer, player, etc...was disappointed to be playing in that game. You could tell our guys who had a potential NFL futures were going about 75%. I almost wish we'd just use non playoff bowl games as an excuse to get ready for next year and not play anyone leaving for the NFL. A senior playing his last game ever being an obvious exception.

I wasn't someone who assumed we'd beat uga simply because we had earlier in the year. They deserve credit for the adjustments, etc...but the facts remain we were driving to take the lead when we turned it over in the 4th quarter. The final score wasn't indicative of the game as a whole. Which is why many Auburn fans think a healthy team would have won. As I stated you can't say that for certain, but it isn't like uga winning righted some wrong. Both teams were evenly matched when healthy. Another example that we were evenly matched is they played bama well as did we.

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How did fail to "develop"? He coached/recruited tons of
defensive players that were drafted including multiple
#1's.

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You didn't quote that one time McElwain, not even close to being known for his defenses, took that same defense and broke multiple records.

There are tons of players that went into the NFL in spite of Muschamp on offense and defense, not because of Muschamp.

I watched his team give up 429 yards to Georgia Southern on the ground.

I watched Furman (other FCS) run for 234.

The complete breakdown and destruction of his defense by Louisville in 2012.

The 500 yards given up to Alabama.

These were things that just never happened until he came, so when I heard he was a defensive guru I didn't expect to watch FCS teams run all over our 5 star players and watch FBS teams just pick apart his defenses at will. These are just the embarrassing games, I'm not even going back to look at teams like Kentucky who threw for well over 300 yards.

Muschamp was a disaster all around, but at least he could recruit I guess.

The moment Muschamp gets his fat hands out of the cookie jar and stops trying to run the offense, he'll be a FANTASTIC coach. I just need to see that he can actually do it.