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re: I'm Gonna be serious with this board

Posted on 11/26/17 at 6:32 pm to
Posted by crimson jake
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Posted on 11/26/17 at 6:32 pm to
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Roys opponent is a proponent of 9 month full term abortion on demand and has a few issues of his own. That's worse than being a pedo, and I hate pedos


I'm not a Jones fanboy but that's absolute bullshite. You shouldn't get your news from facebook memes. Write in Mo Brooks if you want. He'd of been a thousand times better than either Strange or Moore even though I'm pissed at him at the moment for his Moore comments.
This post was edited on 11/27/17 at 2:21 am
Posted by emmanuellewis
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2009
3266 posts
Posted on 11/26/17 at 6:44 pm to
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I'm a Republican and conservative, all my life. But I am certainly concerned by the moral cowardice being displayed by Republicans in Alabama especially by evangelicals


Yeah, anyone in Alabama who is voting for this guy can get off their moral high horse. The Sandusky stuff is way worse but if you are going be up in arms about a second-hand media report that Schiano witnessed an instance of child molestation and only discussed it with people within the program, you should probably be consistent when there are several first-, second-, and third-hand sources in media reports discussing Roy Moore trying to do the same thing to several people.

You are basically Joe Paterno in this situation. He had credible reports from multiple people but never saw anything and, by all accounts, didn't want the information. Who knows, maybe he is even like a lot of posters here in saying there is no way to know what really happened or someone else will remove him from his position if there is credible evidence found.
Posted by Old Sarge
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Posted on 11/26/17 at 6:44 pm to
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
29685 posts
Posted on 11/26/17 at 6:51 pm to
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there are several first-, second-, and third-hand sources in media reports discussing Roy Moore trying to do the same thing to several people.


except, this statement is a lie

I don't know if you are lying, or if you really just do not understand the facts

but that comment is absolutely wrong
Posted by dcbl
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Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 11/26/17 at 7:07 pm to
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I'm a Republican and conservative, all my life. But I am certainly concerned by the moral cowardice being displayed by Republicans in Alabama especially by evangelicals. So you go frick yourself you cowardly piece of shite. When you get to hell you should get Joe Pa's autograph.


and you are willing to throw Moore under the bus for 11th hour allegations?

one came from a known dem operative

one from a woman that had him as her judge for her divorce

I spoke up loud and strong against Bentley and voted against Strange twice because of his actions concerning the Luv Guv

I voted for Brooks in round 1 and Moore in round 2

you want to have a real conversation here?

I'll go this far then, outside of the claims of the 14 year old (who has made similar accusations in the past and has credibility issues outside of this) - Roy has not been accused of doing anything wrong - nada

We know that the yearbook deal is super sketchy and probably a forgery

we know that the ONLY credible witness insofar as "mall bans" vehemently denies them (the mall security manager from that actual time period - a much more credible witness than any that have come out against Moore)

we know these accusations came at the 11th hour with the national balance of power at stake

Roy chasing younger women? I don't like it; but it was not uncommon back then

my wife has a cousin her same age that started dating her now husband when she was 15

Elvis & Priscilla?

90% + of THIS board has an uncle or grandfather that married a woman 10 or more years younger & started dating when the girl was 15-21

it was not a big deal at the time (one of the women actually admitted that her mom said she was the "luckiest girl in the world")

also, Roy wound up marrying one of those "girls"

ALL of them (even the 14 year old) acknowledge that Roy backed off when asked and took them home

sexual impropriety is not even alleged in ANY of the cases

I don't like Moore; I find it troubling that he has demonstrated that he is above the law and that he can do as he damn well pleases

but I am for damned sure not going to support an obstructionist to the agenda of THIS President; not over unsubstantiated allegations

the situation with Moore vs the Tenn coach? worlds apart

I did not show "moral cowardice" in the Bentley situation (I was a strong advocate for impeachment); and I am not in this case either

your finger wagging is misplaced here

I will close with this - do YOU really want strong passes made at a woman to be redefined as "sexual harassment" & made into a crime? and should the accused be demonized and forced from gainful employment before proof of guilt (guilty until proven innocent)???
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
29685 posts
Posted on 11/26/17 at 7:16 pm to
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I don't think anyone is suggesting he should be in prison. There is a taint attached to anyone associated with that program when Sandusky was there, but it's a lot worse when your name appears in a sworn deposition as someone who had knowledge of his misdeeds.


this is exactly correct
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
51150 posts
Posted on 11/26/17 at 7:38 pm to
They are using hearsay about an alleged incident to create false outrage to torpedo a shitty hire.
Posted by tigooner
Member since Nov 2013
217 posts
Posted on 11/26/17 at 7:40 pm to
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I will close with this - do YOU really want strong passes made at a woman to be redefined as "sexual harassment" & made into a crime? and should the accused be demonized and forced from gainful employment before proof of guilt (guilty until proven innocent)???


who's talking about taking passes at a woman? if Moore had just been a creeper towards women it wouldn't be a discussion. We're talking about girls here. Children.
Posted by thatguy45
Your alter's mom's basement
Member since Sep 2017
18890 posts
Posted on 11/26/17 at 7:40 pm to
Amen
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
29685 posts
Posted on 11/26/17 at 8:05 pm to
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We're talking about girls here. Children.


no we are not

we are talking about 17 - 24 year old women

and he married one of them; giving credibility to the idea that he was looking for a wife

I don't like it, won't lie about that

but men in their late 20's & early 30's courting and dating women that age was not uncommon at the time; especially in more rural areas
Posted by tigooner
Member since Nov 2013
217 posts
Posted on 11/26/17 at 8:15 pm to
you know 17 isn't the same number as 14, right?

LINK

quote:

Senate candidate Roy Moore's accuser: I was a 14-year-old child
This post was edited on 11/26/17 at 8:17 pm
Posted by GnashRebel
Member since May 2015
8179 posts
Posted on 11/26/17 at 8:20 pm to
I dislike pedophiles as much as anyone, but I am not sure I blame Schiano just cause he worked there.
Posted by AUTiger45
The Ham
Member since Oct 2013
4043 posts
Posted on 11/26/17 at 8:20 pm to
people enjoy getting a rise out of all this but I guarantee you the majority of folks who arent bammers are in complete agreement with you. I was damn proud to see the UT fans standing up and not accepting it.
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
29685 posts
Posted on 11/26/17 at 8:24 pm to
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you know 17 isn't the same number as 14, right?


one woman alleges that he hit on her when she was 14

she also claims she snuck out of the house and he picked her up on a street corner to avoid her parents

that goes against everything we know about him

he is not my favorite person; nor is he the person I wanted as a candidate

that 14 year old has been accused of making similar accusations before

she has serious credibility issues

I do not believe that Moore was complicit in helping her sneak out of her house knowing she was 14 - it makes no sense and is contrary to everything we know about Moore

this woman claims she met him at the courthouse & that he pursued her - I do not believe her, and again, she had made similar accusations before

her story is the only one that would cause me to abstain from voting (not voting for Jones no matter what) or write in a candidate

but her story is inconsistent with everything we know about Moore (helping her hide from her parents; and pursuing her after meeting her in court)

that would have gotten him run out of town; even back then

do I think it is possible that she met him and told him she was older? and that he took her out on that false pretense?

yes - possible - I could see that happening

but outside of that; I can't see that he did anything improper; at least by the standards of the time and place
Posted by mls4bama
albertville,al
Member since Sep 2015
1537 posts
Posted on 11/26/17 at 8:30 pm to
AGREE
Posted by tigooner
Member since Nov 2013
217 posts
Posted on 11/26/17 at 8:57 pm to
so what you're saying is that you believe the accusation against Schiano but you don't believe the accusation against Moore.

I mean, you can just admit that you want to have a reason to vote for Moore and have no such desire to see Schiano as clean.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 11/26/17 at 8:59 pm to
So are y'all gonna stop worshiping Peyton since apparently it only takes an accusation?
Do you really think Schiano would be an assistant at a high profile program like Ohio State if there was any truth to it?
Posted by arkiebrian
NWA
Member since Nov 2006
4167 posts
Posted on 11/26/17 at 9:08 pm to
Hilarious what you people in Alabama have to tell yourselves to vote for Judge Roy Moore. That's a much bigger shitshow than what happened at Tennessee today and it's one that will affect all of us when you elect the a-hole.
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
29685 posts
Posted on 11/26/17 at 11:07 pm to
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so what you're saying is that you believe the accusation against Schiano but you don't believe the accusation against Moore.

I mean, you can just admit that you want to have a reason to vote for Moore and have no such desire to see Schiano as clean.


the allegation against Schiano is that he witnessed something happening to a boy and confided in someone & that he did nothing to stop it

he did not step in and he did not make a report to the proper authorities

he denies that & the AG at the time did not feel that pursuing him was worth the trouble

that allegation comes from the man that stepped up and brought Sandusky down

the accusations against Moore? most of them amount to nothing; except the 14 year old; and even she says that when she asked Moore to stop, he did and he took her home

Moore dated younger women; women younger than I would date as old as he was

but again, he married one of them

he did not rape anyone, that is not alleged

and he did not walk away from abuse and keep his mouth shut

the Schiano deal is worse by 10,000 and more, and that is even if the 14 year old is telling the truth

so quit being a dumbass

Posted by DannyB
Bagram, Afghanistan
Member since Aug 2010
6141 posts
Posted on 11/26/17 at 11:11 pm to
quote:

I would rather lose every game we play for the rest of my life than be associated with a University that would turn a blind eye to child molestation.


That's the Gods honest truth. Anyone that would accept this or make light of this is sick.

There are more important things in life than football, or basketball, or sports in general.

This is not a joke, there is absolutely NOTHING I take as seriously as this issue.


#TrainersLivesMatterToo

Disassociate yourselves from Peyton Manning!!
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