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re: If Oklahoma joined SEC every team/school would literally lose money.
Posted on 5/2/17 at 4:34 pm to finestfirst79
Posted on 5/2/17 at 4:34 pm to finestfirst79
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I sure don't have any inside info, but it seems like Sen. McCain and others are going to make a la carte happen, whether it's a good idea or not.
No way, not with Trump in the whitehouse. The current FCC is like a love letter to cable cos. They got a reprieve for a few years, which will be just long enough for plain old market forces to kill their business model.
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 4:35 pm to LSU GrandDad
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imo, Oklahoma joining the SEC would be the beginning of the end of the southeastern conference. let them frickers wither on their vine
Their coach. I wouldn't be able to handle him destroying our brand.
Posted on 5/2/17 at 4:36 pm to cardboardboxer
I think Missouri would vote yes on OU. But never forget Okie Lite comes with them. A vote for OU is a vote for two. I like Okie Lite but they do not bring anymore tv sets or money. But I have no idea who would do better than Okie Lite if you have to get two from the Big 12.
You definitely do not want the disease known as UT Austin. No to Iowa ST and the two Kansas schools. West Virginia probably not. TCU, TT, Baylor all no votes from Aggie Land.
Expansion will not happen.
You definitely do not want the disease known as UT Austin. No to Iowa ST and the two Kansas schools. West Virginia probably not. TCU, TT, Baylor all no votes from Aggie Land.
Expansion will not happen.
Posted on 5/2/17 at 4:44 pm to cardboardboxer
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The other side of that coin is college sports are currently being subsidized by millions of non-sports watching grannies...
I agree with everything you said except this generalization. Yeah, grannies are a problem. But they're far from the only problem. I guarantee I could walk down the hall at work tomorrow and ask who watches what sports events, and the majority would look at me like I was speaking Latin. 20-40 yr olds for the most part. We sports fans have been really lucky so far, the conference networks even luckier, but I think it all comes crashing down sooner rather than later.
Posted on 5/2/17 at 4:45 pm to outlawjoseywales
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You definitely do not want the disease known as UT Austin.
Personally I think this quote should go on the secrant splash page.
Posted on 5/2/17 at 4:50 pm to finestfirst79
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I agree with everything you said except this generalization. Yeah, grannies are a problem. But they're far from the only problem.
Oh sure, they are just a convenient example.
My in laws aren't "granny" age and yet they still pay the cable bill as if God himself commands them to because that is "what you do." For a whole generation having cable was an important mark of social status.
The problem is of those 20-40 yr olds I bet not many even have a regular cable subscription, and surely not a nuts-to-the-wall one with every subscription tier like my in-laws have.
Younger people see cable as an option for entertainment that doesn't give them the content how they want (on demand) at higher prices than they want to pay. Hence the fact that more millennials subscribe to Netflix than cable:
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That is only going to get worse.
Attending the games themselves are completely off the table for millennials, with the high costs and limited internet access and tons of waiting and queuing. All sports are in real trouble when that generation is your age.
This post was edited on 5/2/17 at 4:51 pm
Posted on 5/2/17 at 4:57 pm to cardboardboxer
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In a way it is a feedback loop. Granny stops paying for ESPN because she dies, so a smaller consumer base (aka actual sports fans) have to cover the costs for these networks. Fees for sports tiers and sports streaming services will go up, which will turn some people away completely from the sport. Less people will mean the costs for access go even higher. Higher costs means less people, etc.
You are looking at it wrong.
The high prices are fed by baby boomers who went to live games with their dads. Modern kids have been priced out which means they do not have the same emotional connection off the live game expertise. It is not that granny will not pay it is that in another generation junior will not pay.
The same will happen at the schools and will be most felt in the AD's pushing salaries and expenses in the short term while killing the long term survival of the programs.
Posted on 5/2/17 at 5:21 pm to thelawnwranglers
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Why are A&M and Mizzou no? Recruiting advantage?
OU is Baylor-lite as far as taking in any woman abusing misfit as long as they can play.
Additionally we have been to Norman, a place not that far from an industrial cattle yard where you can smell the shite when the wind is right.
In late fall there is nothing between Norman and the north pole but a barbed wire fence.
This post was edited on 5/2/17 at 5:22 pm
Posted on 5/2/17 at 9:27 pm to finestfirst79
The SEC is fine and doesnt really need OU or Texas even if the final solution is 4 x 16.
The best thing for CFB as a whole would be for OU/OSU/UT/TTU to go to the PAC......that is of course if 4 x 16 is the end game.
The best thing for CFB as a whole would be for OU/OSU/UT/TTU to go to the PAC......that is of course if 4 x 16 is the end game.
Posted on 5/2/17 at 9:47 pm to finestfirst79
Don't get me wrong, I hate Texas but OU fans are worse than Texas fans. I only hate what Texas did to the Big 12 (I loved the original Big 8).
But I have a house and land in SE OK that I use for hunting and to get away from the craziness of SoCal...and OU fans are insufferable. Worse than even Ohio State fans when I had to live there many years ago
But I have a house and land in SE OK that I use for hunting and to get away from the craziness of SoCal...and OU fans are insufferable. Worse than even Ohio State fans when I had to live there many years ago
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 9:59 pm to texag7
Membership in the SEC should be up to the Big 6.
Posted on 5/2/17 at 10:53 pm to 14&Counting
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With OU the SEC locks down the DFW market
What a joke!
Posted on 5/2/17 at 11:05 pm to Boomer00
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OU on the other hand is THE program and major draw for their entire state including the OKC metro and a huge alumni base and following in Dallas.
You have forgotten that Oklahoma State whips your arse pretty often.
Every cable subscriber in Texas is already watching SEC football.
The CFB landscape has changed and the Aggies and Mizzou already have alliances in place to block an invitation.
You can forget any dream of ever being a member of the SEC.
This post was edited on 5/2/17 at 11:06 pm
Posted on 5/2/17 at 11:34 pm to Sooner5030
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The best thing for CFB as a whole would be for OU/OSU/UT/TTU to go to the PAC......that is of course if 4 x 16 is the end game.
Tough travel, but then so would be the SEC or B1G.
If for some reason 16-team conferences are deemed necessary, then yeah, the move west makes more sense to me for you guys. And the SEC picks up a couple from NC or VA. But at the moment I don't see the attraction of 16-team conferences.
Posted on 5/2/17 at 11:35 pm to BrandoCo
If SEC wanted Oklahoma, they would have been asked long before. IF SEC expands to 16, which probably will happen eventually.....look for the a Virginia school and North Carolina school.
Posted on 5/2/17 at 11:36 pm to Mac
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Membership in the SEC should be up to the Big 6.
That's what Texas would say.
Posted on 5/2/17 at 11:36 pm to Boomer00
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MO has 5 pro sports teams including the second most dominant franchise in baseball history, and the Chiefs. I live in KC and nobody on this side of the state watches MU athletics. MU has a very isolated following in the NE part of the state hence the half empty stadium you see 80% of the time. I see more sporting KC soccer merch than Mizzou merch and it's not even close.
OU on the other hand is THE program and major draw for their entire state including the OKC metro and a huge alumni base and following in Dallas.
OU would bring a top 3 BBall program, top 2 football program(top 5 in revenue), top 3 baseball program, and top gymnastics program to the SEC.
you lying stack of crap I lived in KC area for 10 years....Mizzou is a huge part of the area, especially the Missouri side of KC.
Posted on 5/2/17 at 11:38 pm to SavageOrangeJug
Having recently left DFW, I can confirm that OU has a large footprint in the metroplex, as well.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 4:49 am to BrandoCo
I don't want to expand, but you sound like a dumbass UT fan overthinking this. It doesn't matter the amount of TVs inOklahoma; what matters is the amount of TVs nationally tuned in to watch OU vs Bama/LSU/Aggy/Auburn/Florida/Georgia/etc...
Posted on 5/3/17 at 6:43 am to El Segundo Guy
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Worse than even Ohio State fans
Impossible
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