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re: If Oklahoma joined SEC every team/school would literally lose money.

Posted on 5/4/17 at 4:02 pm to
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 5/4/17 at 4:02 pm to
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I think in early 2000s the Big 12 was pretty dominant.


The problem is that version of the Big 12 doesn't exist anymore.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
149373 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 4:11 pm to
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there is every reason to say it's on par with the other P5 regardless of the future.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 5/4/17 at 4:12 pm to
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CU won the MNC in the Big 8


They have 1 claimed MNC and it took an illegal 5th down vs Mizzou to get that split title in 1990.

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OU vs. OSU is more like Alabama v Auburn than Alabama v UK.


45-35-1 = 55.56 win ratio for Alabama vs Auburn
86-18-7 = 77.48 win ratio for Oklahoma vs Oklahoma State

Clearly math is not your thing.
Sooners can chalk Pokes as a win, Bama certainly does not have that luxury vs Auburn.

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That hasn't happened before or since.


Probably because KSU without the Purple Wizard and Kansas without the Fat Man are two of the worst football teams of all time.

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Just saying you guys don't follow Big 12 closely which is fine.


I lived in Big Eight country and followed it fairly well as one of my besties played for the Sooners and keeps me in touch with Sooner sports even today.
Posted by StlPoke
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2017
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Posted on 5/4/17 at 4:44 pm to
The rivalry is lopsided because OU is one of the best programs in the history of the game and oSu is a middling .500 program.

Now, 6-14 in the last 20 years is a little more respectable, but Gundy has not performed as well as he should have as a HC.

But the games have been consistently great as of late and frequently come down to a play or 2 late.

I lived in Tuscaloosa for 3 years. The rivalry is extremely similar in a lot of ways.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34904 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 4:46 pm to
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Gundy has not performed as well as he should have as a HC.


Wut? He had OSU a stone's throw away from a national title game.
Posted by StlPoke
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2017
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Posted on 5/4/17 at 4:47 pm to
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Wut? He had OSU a stone's throw away from a national title game.


Vs. OU

Posted by kilo
No block, no rock
Member since Oct 2011
29550 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 4:51 pm to
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You're a shite boarder that follows women's sports and you would scream SEC! SEC! at a wall all day if you thought it wanted to argue.





So true.

"The SEC is the bestest at everything in the whole wild world since the beginning of time!"


This post was edited on 5/4/17 at 4:53 pm
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
60617 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 4:59 pm to
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"The SEC is the bestest at everything in the whole wild world since the beginning of time!"


:kige:

Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
149373 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 5:00 pm to
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You're a shite boarder that follows women's sports and you would scream SEC! SEC! at a wall all day if you thought it wanted to argue.




So true.

"The SEC is the bestest at everything in the whole wild world since the beginning of time!"

Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
60617 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 5:03 pm to
SEC love it or leave it

Funny how the SEC is the only P5 without an exit fee or GoR

If you are not on board, don't let the door hit you on the arse on the way out.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
149373 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 5:04 pm to
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If you are not on board, don't let the door hit you on the arse on the way out.

fwiw i would 100%, without a doubt, no question be on board with a&m leaving the SEC for the B1G if we got an invite
This post was edited on 5/4/17 at 5:04 pm
Posted by Commander Data
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Dec 2016
7291 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 5:07 pm to
Why?
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
149373 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 5:07 pm to
because its the most prestigious conference in collegiate sports and i would much rather associate a&m with schools like michigan and ohio state than the rest of you country bumpkins
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
60617 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 5:07 pm to
No problem with that but your administration and the bulk of your fans and alumni seem to disagree with you. Unless you become president your ability to change corse is not likely.

Hey, it is a free country and you are entitled to your opinion tho
Posted by kilo
No block, no rock
Member since Oct 2011
29550 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 5:44 pm to
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fwiw i would 100%, without a doubt, no question be on board with a&m leaving the SEC for the B1G if we got an invite


Same here with Mizzou.

Texas A&M and Missouri would be a nice little get $$$ for the B1G Network.
This post was edited on 5/4/17 at 5:47 pm
Posted by Boomer00
Member since Sep 2015
3887 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 10:37 pm to
I don't think A&M would fit the big 10 culturally at all. Same with OU. Once you get north of MO people are fricking weird man.
Posted by bcoop199
Kansas City, MISSOURI
Member since Nov 2013
8758 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 11:58 pm to
F the big 10...dying region of the country.
Posted by Mizz-SEC
Inbred Huntin' In The SEC
Member since Jun 2013
22080 posts
Posted on 5/5/17 at 4:38 pm to
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SEC love it or leave it

Funny how the SEC is the only P5 without an exit fee or GoR


When's the last time someone left the Big Ten or Pac-10-12?
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
60617 posts
Posted on 5/5/17 at 5:04 pm to
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When's the last time someone left the Big Ten or Pac-10-12?


B1G
I think 2 of the early members left early. Chicago dropped out around World War II

PCC (now PAC)
Idaho and Montana

You missed the bigger point, ACC + B1G + B12 + PAC all have massive penalty threats of 250 million to 500 million via the GoR's. SEC does not have any exit penalty so any member school is free to leave any time. Interesting with such easy exit ability, none have chosen to do so since the 1960's.

Also, one of the main reasons the Mizzou Tigers joined the SEC over the B1G is the SEC was 50 dollars to join (same as when the SEC founded in the 1930's) while Nebraska had to cough up 50 million to join the B1G (and promptly got kicked out of the AAU by their new conference mates). Folks from Columbia, MO were smarter than the folks from Lincoln, NE.

You guys are laughing all the way to the bank while the new B1G teams got saddled with massive debt and long term financial burdens.
Posted by StlPoke
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2017
1191 posts
Posted on 5/6/17 at 5:58 am to
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Also, one of the main reasons the Mizzou Tigers joined the SEC over the B1G is the SEC 


Mizzou would be in the Big 10 if the Big 10 wanted them. This is undeniable.

The B1G didn't want Missouri though, so SEC it was.
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