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re: I just googled Paul Bryant Jr.

Posted on 12/1/14 at 3:58 pm to
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
40183 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 3:58 pm to
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I bet not many schools would let that type of person run their athletic department


What's Milton McGregor doing these days?
Posted by mattloc
Alabama
Member since Sep 2012
4405 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 4:03 pm to
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t doesn't shock me that you wouldn't understand why people care about this. Alabama is basically killing a football program in its state. Given your fans predilection for killing things that get in Bama's way, of course it would be interesting to this board.



A program that has never pulled its own weight financially, operates year after year substantially in the red and who cant sell more than a few thousand cheap tickets every game.

The State of Alabama has a constitutionally mandated balanced budget that is driving this decision. We don't need to support a welfare sports program to the tune of 17 million taxpayer dollars per year. Fiscal responsibility....its not so hard to understand

Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
22755 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 4:03 pm to
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More than Tuscaloosa....I'm not sure what your point is.....the medical school was and is the University of Alabama's....what is now UAB developed out of that decision to place the medical school in Birmingham and build out UAB.


My only point is that a large part of the success was in part due to the smart choice of location. I think Alabama nailed it there. My problem is the football program is good for undergraduate studies, something UAB is keen on, but UA BoT seems to be lukewarm at best about.

Former Professor
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Well, first the threat to the University Honors Program, and then the threat to UAB football, and the overwhelming evidence that Ray Watts was simply doing whatever certain members of the BOT [Board of Trustees] directed him to do, instead of leading. The fact he had been completely absent from the media and from numerous requests for comment since the threat to UAB football went public led me to start it.
Posted by auburnphan23
Member since Jan 2014
5862 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 4:03 pm to
When was Milton McGregor ever on the Auburn BOT? little bear is not only on the bammer board, but he is the chairman of the athletic committee or something like that if I remember correctly
Posted by Crimson Legend
Mount St Gumpus
Member since Nov 2004
15478 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 4:04 pm to
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I bet

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originally made his money by owning dog tracks.


Sounds like you're just his type of guy. Good luck at the tracks.
Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
22755 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 4:04 pm to
Deflection.

Lots of programs offered by universities lose money. Do all UA athletic programs make a profit on their own. It enhances the undergraduate experience.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105102 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 4:05 pm to
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little bear also originally made his money by owning dog tracks. I wonder how many colleges would let their athletic department be controlled by somebody who was involved in the gambling industry at one time. I bet not many schools would let that type of person run their athletic department



Wait, is this real? An Auburn person wagging their finger about another BOT's shady business dealings?

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The bank ran into problems after it was revealed that it had bought $1 billion in mortgages from Taylor, Bean & Whitaker that Taylor Bean did not own in one of the biggest fraud cases in history. The CEO of Taylor, Bean & Whitaker, Lee Farkas, was put on trial and found guilty of fraud. Bobby Lowder, the CEO of Colonial Bank, was investigated and was not involved with the fraud.[1]
Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
22755 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 4:06 pm to
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When was Milton McGregor ever on the Auburn BOT? little bear is not only on the bammer board, but he is the chairman of the athletic committee or something like that if I remember correctly


When can all agree there are a lot of dirty people with wealth in Alabama.

This just seems like UA BoT trying to keep UAB down and that is a shame.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
27847 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 4:06 pm to
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I wonder how many colleges would let their athletic department be controlled by somebody who was involved in the gambling industry at one time. I bet not many schools would let that type of person run their athletic department




What the frick do you think funds the HOPE Scholarship in the state of Tennessee?
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105102 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 4:07 pm to
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Lots of programs offered by universities lose money. Do all UA athletic programs make a profit on their own. It enhances the undergraduate experience.


The point is none of the undergraduates seem to care about this experience except for the football players, trainers, band and cheerleaders.

In that case, they should either move to a lower level (which they should have kept doing until they figured out how to be a real football program) or quit playing all together.

I wish they'd keep playing and just move down instead of implode the program, but my guess is that option was tossed around and the decision was made that UAB folks would rather not have it at all than have a D2 or D1AA program.
Posted by rootisback
Member since Mar 2014
3371 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 4:07 pm to
you dun got the bammers all riled up -- he got the name, so it doesn't matter what he does.
Posted by auburnphan23
Member since Jan 2014
5862 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 4:08 pm to
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Wait, is this real? An Auburn person wagging their finger about another BOT's shady business dealings?
The person you are referring to is no longer on the Auburn board and Auburn people worked for years to get him off. OTOH, little bear is still on the bammer board today and bammers like you largely just ignore or deflect from his problems. Seems like a pretty big difference to me
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105102 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 4:08 pm to
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When was Milton McGregor ever on the Auburn BOT? little bear is not only on the bammer board, but he is the chairman of the athletic committee or something like that if I remember correctly


You have heard of Bobby Lowder and that little bank he owned, right?
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
68974 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 4:09 pm to
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The fact that UAB is what it is today is due to the good stewardship of the Bama BOT who placed its medical school in Birmingham and built what is now UAB


medical schools are always in bigger cities. having a medical school in tuscaloosa would be a disservice to their students/residents
Posted by allin2010
Auburn
Member since Aug 2011
18316 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 4:10 pm to
Little Bear gets a pass.. He is corrupt, not well liked, but he is smart to keep a low low profile.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105102 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 4:10 pm to
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Seems like a pretty big difference to me


Yea, I agree. One is involved in "horse racing" which "sounds shady".

The other was Chairman of the Board of a $26B bank that failed due to $1B in fraudulent mortgages that ended up being the 6th largest bank failure in the history of the United States at the same time that he was on the AU BOT.

Yea, big difference.
This post was edited on 12/1/14 at 4:11 pm
Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
22755 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 4:10 pm to
Please don't deflect this to a finger pointing competition about whose BoT is worse. UA BoT may very well kill another universites football program as well as Honors Program this year.

That is the issue.
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
40183 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 4:11 pm to
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My only point is that a large part of the success was in part due to the smart choice of location. I think Alabama nailed it there. My problem is the football program is good for undergraduate studies, something UAB is keen on, but UA BoT seems to be lukewarm at best about.


As I said, I am all for supporting UAB academically and not just the medical school, medical research, or graduate studies....but to an earlier post, UAB undergrad. has always been a commuter school. I.E. most undergrads are probably part time. If they really want that campus lifestyle, then Tuscaloosa is 55 minutes away. When there is finite resources, then some priorities have to be established.
Posted by Mizzou Fan in Da ATX
Member since Dec 2011
4184 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 4:12 pm to
In related news, Mizzou was Paul Bryant's daddy.

Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25969 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 4:13 pm to
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If they really want that campus lifestyle, then Tuscaloosa is 55 minutes away. When there is finite resources, then some priorities have to be established.


That's great for all of the out-of-staters that make up most of the student population at SPUAT, but what about the in-state people who need a school that will actually try and educate the people of the state?
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