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re: I don't understand Jimbo's meltdown yesterday

Posted on 2/3/22 at 11:51 am to
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 2/3/22 at 11:51 am to
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will explain then. You’ll probably disagree. But that’s okay.

Those at A&M actually believe their school is the best university in the world. In. The. World.

They actually believe this. Now from the outside looking in you don’t see it. But once you are there, people fall in love with A&M for the most part.

So I get most don’t understand him. Or agree. But that’s where he’s coming from because he actually believes this.




What does any of this have to do with NIL?

You can still be a great university and use NIL to sign a record class, his rage makes no sense.

You saying this is a reaction as if NIL is illegal which it isnt, all this shite is above board now.

This comment does not make sense.
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 2/3/22 at 11:55 am to
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Agreed 1000%. If you spin it this way I think it helps you more with recruiting going forward. I don't get what the frick he was trying to accomplish yesterday. Bad look.



Exactly, this only helps the program. It announces to the country that we have our shite together here before the rest of the Programs catch up.

There is nothing negative here to hide, what is he mad about?
Posted by aggressor
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Posted on 2/3/22 at 11:59 am to
So essentially you want to dismiss all the other factors I listed because you disagree with them (though not everyone does) and think it is solely because of NIL. That's fine and you are welcome to your opinion.

Personally I would love it if you were right. If it is purely about paying players the most money then A&M will never have a class below 3 or certainly 5 again. We are the richest school in the SEC with the broadest and richest alumni base and we are getting richer. Personally I don't think that's the sole factor in how you succeed but you are welcome to that opinion even if it means LSU will be stuck as a middle of the pack school going forward (according to your logic).
Posted by TideWarrior
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Posted on 2/3/22 at 12:04 pm to
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So essentially you want to dismiss all the other factors I listed because you disagree with them (though not everyone does) and think it is solely because of NIL.


We are not ignoring them simply stating that prior to NIL a&m never achieved a #1 class and even at FSU Jimbo never achieved a #1 class or over a 297 rating. What we are trying to point out that aggie fans and Jimbo are in denial about is NIL was the tipping point to climb over some of the the blue bloods like UA who always finish near the top.

Did they do anything wrong no just was finally able to use a resource that have a lot of have to tip the scales in their favor.
Posted by aggressor
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Posted on 2/3/22 at 12:05 pm to
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quote:
It's pretty simple actually.



Not that simple.
A&M goes 8-4 (1)
Has a SEC West all time losing record. 26-27
Has a SEC West all time losing record at Kyle field.
It is not simple to understand how A&M came up with the
best recruiting class of all time.

() Games you would have lost if you had played,


I think you greatly overestimate how much recruits care about flaws in A&M's record under Kevin Sumlin. I also don't think they care about the Gator Bowl. What they care about is what they think their future looks like. Now you may think that future is bleak for A&M but many disagree. You are welcome to your opinion. BTW, congrats on Perkins he is a stud.
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 2/3/22 at 12:05 pm to
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Personally I would love it if you were right. If it is purely about paying players the most money then A&M will never have a class below 3 or certainly 5 again.


Well exactly, you don't think this is true as of now?

With the cash yall have you are set up to do some damage.

You think this class is a product of the academic prowess of Texas A&M?

Zero chance, and again there is nothing wrong with that considering NIL is legal in 2022.
Posted by Thorny
Montgomery, AL
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 2/3/22 at 12:07 pm to
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He's upset that these dipshits are spreading a $30M figure, when it isn't even close to that. It probably cost us some recruits like Perkins
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Yeah, that makes no fricking sense. You lost a recruit because he believed you had a lot of money to spend on him?



Well, maybe, maybe not.

The number going around was that Aggie was paying upwards of $30mil for this years class. That would mean that every player in the class would average getting over a million in NIL deals. (I never believed that number, BTW.)

So, let's say the real number is about 20% of that, or $6mil. All of the sudden, Aggie isn't offering Perkins over $1mil. Not even close.

Perkins knew he was one of the most coveted recruits, but whatever offer he was given from Aggie didn't match the number he was seeing in the press. So, it's not unreasonable to think he might have thought Aggie was lowballing him, and decided to look elsewhere.

Jimbo may have been really sincere saying that the $30mil number was never true. (Again, that number never made sense to me.) Where he went off the rails was trying to reverse the narrative Aggie has spent the entire recruiting season trying to sell: Come to College Station and you will get paid.

JMHO.

GEAUX TIGERS!
This post was edited on 2/3/22 at 12:10 pm
Posted by Marty Dawg
Ball Ground
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Posted on 2/3/22 at 12:09 pm to
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Times are changing. It’s a new game.


I agree. I never thought I'd see the day where an SEC team ducked an ACC opponent in a bowl game.

Truly unprecedented times we are living in.
This post was edited on 2/3/22 at 12:10 pm
Posted by topcat88
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 2/3/22 at 12:10 pm to
He’s a whiny bitch. He’s like Saban but without the titles.
Posted by bstew3006
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Posted on 2/3/22 at 12:11 pm to
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So essentially you want to dismiss all the other factors I listed because you disagree with them (though not everyone does) and think it is solely because of NIL. That's fine and you are welcome to your opinion.


I listed why those “other factors” aren’t new or extraordinary, and actually pretty damn common. Those factors have always been there for multiple programs and none of them saw a complete steroid injection to recruiting like AM. If you think it’s Bc the staff all of a sudden worked hard and those “other factors”, I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.

quote:

Personally I would love it if you were right. If it is purely about paying players the most money then A&M will never have a class below 3 or certainly 5 again.


Yet, before NIL, AM only signed 8-5stars over previous 7 years and only in top 5 once. So…yeah.

Do you think Jimbo lands the same class without NIL??

NIL is legal, Just own it, no need get triggered and spin it like Jimbo

All major concerns over NIL were proven true by AM
This post was edited on 2/3/22 at 12:14 pm
Posted by FittySeven
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Posted on 2/3/22 at 12:14 pm to
“bIg MeLt”
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 2/3/22 at 12:16 pm to
Jimbo melting for no reason is why this thread exist.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 2/3/22 at 12:17 pm to
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I think you greatly overestimate how much recruits care about flaws in A&M's record under Kevin Sumlin.


Please explain to me how the grass is so much better under Jimbo vs Sumlin.

In their 1st 4 years:

Sumlin finished with 11, 9, 8, & 8 wins and 3-1 in bowl games plus his QB won the Heisman.

Jimbo finished with 9, 8, 9 ,8 wins and 3-0(only because they back out of a bowl.

Sumlin started off better than Jimbo in his 1st 4 years.
Posted by UnderDog68
Thomasville, Ga.
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 2/3/22 at 12:19 pm to
He’s an idiot….what’s not to understand?
Posted by Fightin Okra
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Posted on 2/3/22 at 12:58 pm to
The guilty always talk to much trying to deny it
Posted by AGGIES
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Posted on 2/3/22 at 1:06 pm to
Very simply - everyone needs to STFU and keep A&M’s name outta their mouths.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
121498 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 1:06 pm to
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Very simply - everyone needs to STFU and keep A&M’s name outta their mouths.

A&M
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61632 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 1:08 pm to
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Very simply - everyone needs to STFU and keep A&M’s name outta their mouths.


Why?

I mean on this site alone y'all have posted constantly about the class but get pissed if anyone else brings it up.
Posted by Zgeo
Baja Oklahoma
Member since Jul 2021
2294 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 1:08 pm to
Very Strange….either Aggie managed to do something illegal ….or the 8&4feit season destroyed him
Posted by Lsupimp
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Posted on 2/3/22 at 1:13 pm to
That was the single most embarrassing press conference melt down by a coach in SEC history. When Spurrier melted he was funny. When Saban melts we usually say "great point" after we process it. Low IQ and High ego are a combination that tends to lead to embarrassing melts. If Aggies were honest about it, they'd admit it's embarrassing. But they will just double down, make grand pronouncements about owning Bama and LSU (4-17 record since 2011 notwithstanding) and talk about their total dominance through another 4-5 loss season.
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