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re: I don't know what targeting is anymore.
Posted on 11/17/19 at 11:18 am to Taurus 357
Posted on 11/17/19 at 11:18 am to Taurus 357
It was called targeting on the field then reversed in the booth but that was when you still got the 15 yard penalty even if it was reversed. That call let Vandy convert on a 4th down attempt. UGA should've got the ball back. Instead, Vandy went on to score and win that game and Franklin got the job at Penn State.
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Posted on 11/18/19 at 7:38 am to Lonnie Utah
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“Two of our guys got whacked. It’s beyond me, guys. I’m done. I’m done with it.” - Muschamp
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Posted on 11/18/19 at 7:43 am to Lonnie Utah
First guy lowers his head and uses crown of helmet, close to not being head/neckl area though, more chest.
Last 2 guys dont lower and use crown of helmet, so not really targeting.
Dont think any of the 3 meet all the rules for targeting but if 1 is targeting it's the first one.
Last 2 guys dont lower and use crown of helmet, so not really targeting.
Dont think any of the 3 meet all the rules for targeting but if 1 is targeting it's the first one.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 7:47 am to Lonnie Utah
I’m not trying to be obtuse but I don’t think any of those 3 are targeting.
The only one I think I would have thrown a flag at real time speed would be the third. But after the replay I’d be happy to see it overturned.
The first that actually had a player ejected seemed to me to be the least offensive of the three. And a player got tossed.
The only one I think I would have thrown a flag at real time speed would be the third. But after the replay I’d be happy to see it overturned.
The first that actually had a player ejected seemed to me to be the least offensive of the three. And a player got tossed.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 7:48 am to thunderbird1100
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Last 2 guys dont lower and use crown of helmet, so not really targeting.
You don't have to lower the head or use the crown of the helmet. Any contact that is "Leading with helmet, shoulder forearm, fist, hand or elbow to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area." Both of the last two there was an "attack" to the head neck area of the players. (And ironically, where the player got tossed, there was no attack to the head/neck area.) Both were pulled out of the game and didn't return. #7 for SC was knocked out cold, and didn't move for several minutes.
If the targeting rule exists for player safety, and to prevent head injuries, then you HAVE TO include the later two as targeting.
And if you don't want to call it "targeting" because you don't think it meets the strict definition of the rule, then call it unnecessary roughness.
This post was edited on 11/18/19 at 7:50 am
Posted on 11/18/19 at 7:51 am to Lonnie Utah
On the 2nd and 3rd one, the defender attempted to pull back.
On the first one, the defender saw the ball loose, then lowered his helmet to make the hit, helmet first.
Bottom line: OP is still melting.
On the first one, the defender saw the ball loose, then lowered his helmet to make the hit, helmet first.
Bottom line: OP is still melting.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 7:55 am to Lonnie Utah
And people keep saying the runner in the last one "wasn't defenseless". But he clearly stops his momentum in anticipation of the hit.
The rule is unambiguous. NCAA rule 9-1-2 Article 4, Note 2: "When in question, a player is defenseless. Examples of defenseless players include but are not limited to:"
The rule is unambiguous. NCAA rule 9-1-2 Article 4, Note 2: "When in question, a player is defenseless. Examples of defenseless players include but are not limited to:"
Posted on 11/18/19 at 7:56 am to CGSC Lobotomy
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Bottom line: OP is still melting.
I told you yesterday, I'm not giving this one up.
I hope UGA beats your thug @$$3$ by 1,000,000 points.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 7:57 am to Lonnie Utah
He stopped his momentum to try to make a spin move.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 8:00 am to CGSC Lobotomy
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He stopped his momentum to try to make a spin move.
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"When in question, a player is defenseless."
Just admit it, A&M is a bunch of thugs that play dirty. It's ok.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 8:00 am to Lonnie Utah
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Not just for hogs and democrats anymore.
Not just for hogs and democrats anymore.
This post was edited on 11/18/19 at 8:01 am
Posted on 11/18/19 at 8:23 am to Lonnie Utah
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I told you yesterday, I'm not giving this one up.
If you're going to keep this little crusade going, you should probably take some time to understand the targeting rule, and how it applies. And I would spend some time learning about what qualifies as "defenseless" too.
But, then again, if you did that, you'd realize that all the calls were correct and that you are wrong. So I guess you'll just keep on spewing ignorance based on what you want these terms to mean instead of what they actually mean.
This post was edited on 11/18/19 at 8:24 am
Posted on 11/18/19 at 8:44 am to Lonnie Utah
Lonnie I am going to say this as somebody that thinks you’re a good guy. Please let it go man. Don’t get so worked up over a game you have no control over to where you’re heart rate gets up like the other night. Go skiing or something man but relax.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 8:52 am to Krampus
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That's football. Players hit each other. Sometimes they get hurt. Maybe you're better suited to be a fan of another sport.
Be sure to save that comment for next Saturday night.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 7:10 pm to Krampus
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If the tackler leads with the crown of the helmet, targeting does not require contact to head or neck area. Read the rule specified right above your post.
So targeting can be called on the lower part of body if player leads with helmet?
I have never seen it called if so.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 7:11 pm to PearlJam
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You and Lonnie are both clueless about the rule.
First I was giving my opinion.
Second I never said I knew the rule dumbass.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 2:27 pm to Lonnie Utah
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So two weeks after the A&M game, Dakereon Joyner was still in the concussion protocol and was unavailable against Clemson. for those that don't remember, he was knocked out vs TA&M and spent several minutes on the turf motionless after a vicious hit to the head. He had practiced earlier last week and showed concussion type symptoms and they pulled him and put a yellow jersey on him.
My point is this, if we have a targeting rule for player safety, and to protect players from head injuries, then it needs to be enforced. This is why I got so upset during the game, and afterwards. If not targeting, then it should have at least been unnecessary roughness.
This isn't a shot at the aggies. This is a shot at the SEC refs and the SEC office of officials. No way should that call ever have been overturned.
This post was edited on 12/2/19 at 2:32 pm
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