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re: I don't know what targeting is anymore.
Posted on 11/17/19 at 9:41 am to BoerneAg
Posted on 11/17/19 at 9:41 am to BoerneAg
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Maybe your QB should have, you know, slid.
He was still 6 yards short of the down marker on 4th down. It's not like Kyler Murray sliding 4 yards from the goal line to avoid a hit.
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 9:41 am to Lonnie Utah
First two you linked should be called penalties for helmet to helmet contact - even leading with the helmet. Third one looked like it was shoulder of the defender to helmet of a low running ball carrier. Third one, no foul. First two, definitely fouls.
Posted on 11/17/19 at 9:47 am to Swamp Angel
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First two you linked should be called penalties for helmet to helmet contact - even leading with the helmet.
But the SC defender never hit mond in the head. The hit was square to the chest.
Posted on 11/17/19 at 9:54 am to Lonnie Utah
He lead with the crown of his helmet, idiot.
You should just edit the title, and delete "anymore."
You should just edit the title, and delete "anymore."
Posted on 11/17/19 at 9:55 am to Lonnie Utah
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I don't know what targeting is anymore.
No one does. Not even the refs. That's the point
Posted on 11/17/19 at 10:04 am to ColoradoAg
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 10:05 am to PearlJam
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He lead with the crown of his helmet, idiot.
So you hit a guy in the waist or leg or foot with the crown of your helmet and it's targeting?
The rule says "head and neck area".
This post was edited on 11/17/19 at 10:06 am
Posted on 11/17/19 at 10:06 am to Lonnie Utah
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But the SC defender never hit mond in the head. The hit was square to the chest.
He led with the crown of his helmet. That pretty much covers it right there. Crown of helmet also appeared to hit the defender in the lower part of the facemask. I'd say that makes it helmet to helmet as well.
Posted on 11/17/19 at 10:09 am to Lonnie Utah
quote:The rule has 2 parts:
The rule says "head and neck area".
1: forceable contact to the head or neck area of a defenseless player; or
2: initiating forceable contact with the crown of the helmet
The rule appears to have been applied correctly in the three videos you posted. Though the second one is close.
This post was edited on 11/17/19 at 10:13 am
Posted on 11/17/19 at 10:11 am to PearlJam
The second one was very close - thought it should have been upheld in modern flag football where you can't hit at all
Posted on 11/17/19 at 10:19 am to PearlJam
This is what the rule says.
Was the first one an "attack" that goes beyond making a legal tackle?
The only answer is no.
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" 'Targeting' means that a player takes aim at an opponent for purposes of attacking with forcible contact that goes beyond making a legal tackle or a legal block or playing the ball."
Was the first one an "attack" that goes beyond making a legal tackle?
The only answer is no.
Posted on 11/17/19 at 10:20 am to olddawg26
quote:Thats a terrible call, just like the call against Devin White of LSU last year. Same scenario, hits the QB with his hands (not to the face in either case) and pushes him down.
Don’t forget this awesome targeting penalty
fricking pitiful.
Posted on 11/17/19 at 10:21 am to Lonnie Utah
Still cherry picking pieces and parts of the rule to fit what want reality to be, eh?
How's that working out for you?
How's that working out for you?
Posted on 11/17/19 at 10:43 am to Lonnie Utah
Lonnie man one was, second could have been and the third was not. Here’s the deal the leading with the crown of the helmet is not just for the ball carrier safety but the tackler as well. Cervical fractures come from an axial load that comes from leading with the crown. The old see what you hit theory.
Now to your point the targeting call is very inconsistent. But I think you need to give it up.
Now to your point the targeting call is very inconsistent. But I think you need to give it up.
Posted on 11/17/19 at 10:51 am to Lonnie Utah
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Targeting and Making Forcible Contact With the Crown of the Helmet (Rule 9-1-3)
No player shall target and make forcible contact against an opponent with the crown of his helmet. This foul requires that there be at least one indicator of targeting. When in question, it is a foul.
[quote]Instances include, but are not limited to:
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Lowering the head before attacking by initiating forcible contact with the crown of his helmet.
This post was edited on 11/17/19 at 10:55 am
Posted on 11/17/19 at 10:56 am to Lonnie Utah
First one isn't targeting.
He hit him in the chest with the crown of his helmet
Yeah I know he lead with the crown of his helmet but was nowhere near the head or neck area.
He hit him in the chest with the crown of his helmet
Yeah I know he lead with the crown of his helmet but was nowhere near the head or neck area.
Posted on 11/17/19 at 10:57 am to boweswi05
You and Lonnie are both clueless about the rule.
Posted on 11/17/19 at 10:58 am to boweswi05
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Yeah I know he lead with the crown of his helmet but was nowhere near the head or neck area.
If the tackler leads with the crown of the helmet, targeting does not require contact to head or neck area. Read the rule specified right above your post.
Posted on 11/17/19 at 11:01 am to olddawg26
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olddawg26
Man that’s messed up if that hit by UGA on the receiver was called targeting. Refs are ruining football at the collegiate and NFL level
Posted on 11/17/19 at 11:12 am to PearlJam
They are losing sight or don’t understand the rule is in play to protect the defensive player as well. Ole Miss fans I’m sure will remember the Mullins kid that led with his helmet making a tackle and was paralyzed. Was told since I was a child and said it for years to players, see what you hit.
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