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re: I changed my mind about the Tenn revolt today

Posted on 11/27/17 at 7:44 pm to
Posted by iglass
North Alabama
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 11/27/17 at 7:44 pm to
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cardboardboxer
I changed my mind about the Tenn revolt today
At first I was skeptical, and who can blame me? It seemed obvious to everyone that the backlash was because they expected a better coach. We doubted the sincerity of their claims it had to do with the Penn St thing and just assumed they thought they deserved a guy with a better coaching record.

But then I really got to thinking about it and that doesn’t make sense. Tenn fans have to KNOW that they can’t reject a guy like Schiano and expect someone with a better resume to actually take the job. They have to know what they did would look bad to the next coach, and would basically take their name out of the running for any coach any other SEC team would actually want as their head coach. They had to know.

Therefore unless the Tennessee fan base is the dummest and most entitled fan base in the sport (they can’t be- UF fans are) then it makes sense that they actually did this for right reasons and are willing to accept the consequences of shitty seasons for their actions. And with them rallying around Tee, a candidate that no other Power 5 program wants, it seems clear they made the choice to stand up for what they believe in over actually being good at football.

In which case I salute you Tenn fans, no troll. It is rare in this day and age for people to put their principles above success on the football field.


I think you made about five or six salient points of sensible interest here.

But, I reject your final conclusion on the basis that MAYBE ten or twenty people in the entire Tennessee fan base are capable of following that train of logic.
Posted by weremoose
Member since Nov 2015
4164 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 7:48 pm to
How so?
Posted by TRUERockyTop
Appalachia
Member since Sep 2011
15816 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 7:53 pm to
Potential recruits parent: "I'm supposed to entrust 4 years of my child's life to the guy who got deposed in what case? Honey, are you sure about this on top of all of the negative press from ex players, staff, and colleagues from his time at Tampa Bay?"

Potential recruit: "I'm supposed to trust this man when he was deposed in court of knowingly not going to police after witnessing child molestation within his program? Even if it's only a slight chance he had anything to do with it, I don't want to be associated with anything or anyone from that situation"

Potential rival coach: "You're going to let your son go play for a guy that's been involved with what case? Even if it was 30 years ago, are you sure that's the correct decision for you and your family?"


Just a few of the scenarios that I could have seen playing out with that hire. With the recent Title 9 issues, this should have been a no brainer. Jon needle dick Currie fricked this one up more than even I could have imagined.
This post was edited on 11/27/17 at 7:55 pm
Posted by nc14
La Jolla
Member since Jan 2012
28193 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 7:53 pm to
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Ohio State


Just my theory "nut".
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76516 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 7:54 pm to
quote:

Potential recruits parent: "I'm supposed to entrust 4 years of my child's life to the guy who got deposed in what case? Honey, are you sure about this on top of all of the negative press from ex players, staff, and colleagues from his time at Tampa Bay?"

Potential recruit: "I'm supposed to trust this man when he was deposed in court of knowingly not going to police after knowing about child molestation within his program? Even if it's only a slight chance he had anything to do with it, I don't want to be associated with anything or anyone from that situation"

Potential rival coach: "You're going to let your son go play for a guy that's been involved with what case? Even if it was 30 years ago, are you sure that's the correct decision for you and your family?"



Why has this not been brought up in his over two years of recruiting at Ohio State?
Posted by mountain D values
VOLS
Member since Aug 2017
3211 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 7:55 pm to
Because they’re more worried about your offensive coordinator who beat was fired for beating his players
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76516 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 7:56 pm to
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Because they’re more worried about your offensive coordinator who beat was fired for beating his players


The frick?

That's not true at all.

Y'all are some libelous, delusional fricks.
This post was edited on 11/27/17 at 7:57 pm
Posted by TRUERockyTop
Appalachia
Member since Sep 2011
15816 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 8:00 pm to
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Why has this not been brought up in his over two years of recruiting at Ohio State?


Check this out.

I couldn't give a flying frick about what has or has not happened with him and Ohio St. We don't want anyone that was associated with the Sandusky situation in this program. Especially at HC. Even the thought of having to answer any of the points that I mentioned above just once to a potential parent or recruit is one too many. On top of the Title 9 issues that Tennessee has gone through recently the guy has some serious adverse character flaws that have been shouted out by ex players, staff and colleagues.

You can have him.
This post was edited on 11/27/17 at 8:01 pm
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 8:00 pm to
quote:

Just a few of the scenarios that I could have seen playing out with that hire. With the recent Title 9 issues, this should have been a no brainer.


I didn’t even think about the title 9 stuff.
Posted by mountain D values
VOLS
Member since Aug 2017
3211 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 8:01 pm to
Cardboardboxer looking smarter by the second
Posted by mountain D values
VOLS
Member since Aug 2017
3211 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 8:02 pm to
Why was Kevin Wilson let go from indiana
This post was edited on 11/27/17 at 8:03 pm
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76516 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 8:04 pm to
quote:

Check this out.

I couldn't give a flying frick about what has or has not happened with him and Ohio St. We don't want anyone that was associated with the Sandusky situation in this program. Especially at HC. Even the thought of having to answer any of the points that I mentioned above just once to a potential parent or recruit is one too many. On top of the Title 9 issues that Tennessee has gone through recently the guy has some serious adverse character flaws that have been shouted out by ex players, staff and colleagues.

You can have him.


Just fyi, he was never deposed, and has no connection to the Jerry Sandusky situation aside from a since retracted statement that was heard 3rd hand.

I don't care about Tennessee, y'all are a bunch of cheating fricks anyway, but to vet, investigate, offer employment, then rescind based on untrue facts by a mob of pyscho inbreds is just indicative of the clown show in Knoxville.

Best of luck in your search of finding someone to coach in that situation.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26957 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 8:05 pm to
quote:

Potential recruits parent: "I'm supposed to entrust 4 years of my child's life to the guy who got deposed in what case?


quote:

Potential recruit: "I'm supposed to trust this man when he was deposed in court of knowingly not going to police after witnessing child molestation within his program?


You literally know absolutely nothing of Schiano's alleged involvement, do you?

It's ok...you can admit it. You're no different than the multitudes of other Vol fans in that regard.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76516 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 8:05 pm to
quote:

Why was Kevin Wilson let go from indiana


You think he beat players and was immediately hired?

Posted by GurleyGirl
Georgia
Member since Nov 2015
13164 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 8:06 pm to
I think the acid test would be for other fans on this board to ask yourselves how you would feel if your AD had hired Schiano? I'm pretty sure he would not have been well received by most SEC fans for a variety of reasons including the fact that he was associated with Penn St. during the scandal.

No one ever said life was fair. It is entirely possible that Schiano had no knowledge of what was going on and there is no direct evidence to prove that he did. But much less has placed a cloud over promising careers. And as I said it doesn't seem fair but it is what it is.
Posted by mountain D values
VOLS
Member since Aug 2017
3211 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 8:06 pm to
Answer the question.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76516 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 8:09 pm to
quote:

Answer the question.


For alleged differences with the athletic director over how injured players were treated.

He was never accused of beating players. You should delete your terribly misinformed posts.
Posted by Mizzou4ever
Kansas City, Mo
Member since Nov 2011
15229 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 8:13 pm to
Yeah you know no fans from the other teams would welcome him at their programs. They keep saying how fake the moral outrage from Vol fans are, but the true fakes are those running around here trolling and talking crap about the fanbase stopping this hire.
Posted by mountain D values
VOLS
Member since Aug 2017
3211 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 8:13 pm to
Lol suck my cock
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26957 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 8:13 pm to
quote:

You should delete your terribly misinformed posts.


Speaking of terribly misinformed posts...does anyone have a link to a transcript of that Schiano deposition?
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