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re: Huge difference between an FBI Target Letter and a Subpoena

Posted on 2/25/19 at 7:27 pm to
Posted by LaBR4
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 2/25/19 at 7:27 pm to
Oh St. Cal
Posted by Terrific Tales
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 2/25/19 at 7:28 pm to
He won’t have to plead the fifth because he won’t be being questioned about himself. I don’t know how much clearer I can make this for you
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64640 posts
Posted on 2/25/19 at 7:28 pm to
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It is LSU fans saying he is safe by claiming the 5th.

And it is you saying the FBI wants to question him
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Do you think someone from the NCAA will be in the courtroom when those questions are asked ?

I don’t care
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Do you think the NCAA will be force to conduct their own investigation based on those questions ?

No
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but I would be very nervous as an LSU fan.

Why? What he’s being asked about the NCAA has known for a long time. If LSU is investigated so will 30+ other programs. The FBI probe uncovered a lot more than a 20 second conversation with Wade

The defense just happens to think Wade will be helpful to their client. It is being framed in this board like the FBI is trying to build a case against Wade. It’s anazing how stupid y’all are.

Yes it’s serious. It’s a federal case. Wade has nothing to worry about criminally. He and over 30 other coaches have to worry about what the NCAA does when the FBI is done prosecuting the case. There would be dozens of programs involved in that investigation. The NCAA will have to decide if it wants to open that can of worms.
This post was edited on 2/25/19 at 7:30 pm
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 2/25/19 at 7:28 pm to
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He won’t have to plead the fifth because he won’t be being questioned about himself. I don’t know how much clearer I can make this for you


ok
Posted by LouisvilleKat
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 2/25/19 at 7:30 pm to
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 LSU fans saying he is safe by claiming the 5th. Do you think someone from the NCAA will be in the courtroom when those questions are asked ? Do you think the NCAA will be force to conduct their own investigation based on those questions ? I do not have a dog in the fight, but I would be very nervous as an LSU fan.
Considering Memphis got in trouble with the NCAA because D. Rose declined cooperating with the NCAA I think taking the 5th would be a genius idea!

Or the Louisville case where refusal to cooperate by Andre McGee was taken as an admission of guilt. Stupendous stuff
This post was edited on 2/25/19 at 7:32 pm
Posted by Terrific Tales
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 2/25/19 at 7:30 pm to
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It is LSU fans saying he is safe by claiming the fifth


No. What LSU fans said was that he won’t need to claim the fifth because he is a witness that won’t receive questions that would self-incriminate. However, they said that if for some reason he were asked a self-incriminating question, all he would need to do is plead the 5th, which is absolutely correct.
Posted by OKtiger
Tulsa, OK
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 2/25/19 at 7:32 pm to
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but his ability to provide believable answers will determine his job security


Nothing about the wire tap or pleading the 5th would lead to LSU firing Wade

Of course you'd want that.

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Remember Bruce Pearl lost his job because he lied about a BBQ Party.


Cool story. At least this time around, he will lose his job because he can't coach
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64640 posts
Posted on 2/25/19 at 7:32 pm to
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declined cooperating with the NCAA

Yeah because ]that’s a level 1 violation. NCAA bylaws do not require coaches, while being questioned in court, to waive their constitutional rights
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I think taking the 5th would be a genius idea!

Asserting a constitutional right would not result in the NCAA levying sanctions against Wade. He’ll have no reason to plead the 5th, but really how fricking stupid are some of y’all?

You’re comparing a court of law to an NCAA investigation and trying to intertwine NCAA bylaws with constitutional rights. WTF is wrong with you?
This post was edited on 2/25/19 at 7:35 pm
Posted by LouisvilleKat
Member since Oct 2016
18224 posts
Posted on 2/25/19 at 7:35 pm to
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Asserting a constitutional right would not result in the NCAA levying sanctions against Wade. He’ll have no reason to plead the 5th, but really how fricking stupid are some of y’all?



the NCAA don't give a shite about your constitutional rights. Once this FBI probe is over it's open season and the NCAA ain't no court of law
Posted by OKtiger
Tulsa, OK
Member since Nov 2014
8595 posts
Posted on 2/25/19 at 7:35 pm to
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Considering Memphis got in trouble with the NCAA because D. Rose declined cooperating with the NCAA I think taking the 5th would be a genius idea!

Or the Louisville case where refusal to cooperate by Andre McGee was taken as an admission of guilt. Stupendous stuff




Again I'm seriously concerned that SEC fans on this forum do not know the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the NCAA are two separate organizations

Pleading the 5th in a legal case does not mean he would not be cooperating with an NCAA investigation

Do you all smoke meth?
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64640 posts
Posted on 2/25/19 at 7:36 pm to
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Once this FBI probe is over it's open season and the NCAA ain't no court of law

You’re right, it’s not. And if this investigation includes all the teams involved in the probe, a lot more than LSU is fricked. The question is does Emmert want to drop a bomb in college basketball or not. My guess is no
This post was edited on 2/25/19 at 8:02 pm
Posted by OKtiger
Tulsa, OK
Member since Nov 2014
8595 posts
Posted on 2/25/19 at 7:37 pm to
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it's open season and the NCAA ain't no court of law


I'm sure Coach Cal wouldn't be a part of this "open season" would he?
Posted by LouisvilleKat
Member since Oct 2016
18224 posts
Posted on 2/25/19 at 7:38 pm to
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Again I'm seriously concerned that SEC fans on this forum do not know the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the NCAA are two separate organizations 

Pleading the 5th in a legal case does not mean he would not be cooperating with an NCAA investigation 

congrats. I just said exactly the same thing above.

No one gives a shite about the FBI probe other than the evidence being collected.
The party is the NCAA and it's intentional to follow up on the information provided by the FBI investigation. No pleading the 5th bullshite, no that was tossed out of court.. it's gonna be fun
Posted by LouisvilleKat
Member since Oct 2016
18224 posts
Posted on 2/25/19 at 7:39 pm to
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I'm sure Coach Cal wouldn't be a part of this "open season" would he?


I doubt it. Only time his name's come up is because Bam allegedly had lunch with an agent before Kentucky recruited him
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64640 posts
Posted on 2/25/19 at 7:40 pm to
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it's gonna be fun

For who? Kentucky was involved in probe too

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Based on Friday's report, and documents obtained therein, schools that could potentially face NCAA repercussions include: Alabama, Clemson, Creighton, Duke, Iowa State, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisville, LSU, Maryland, Michigan State, NC State, North Carolina, Notre Dame, Seton Hall, USC, Utah, Villanova, Virginia, Washington, Wichita State Texas and Xavier.
This post was edited on 2/25/19 at 7:42 pm
Posted by LouisvilleKat
Member since Oct 2016
18224 posts
Posted on 2/25/19 at 7:42 pm to
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For who? Kentucky was involved in probe too ?

no 1 player was and it wasn't for anything Kentucky or anyone on Kentuckys staff did. It was an agent trying to make a run at an unsigned recruit
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 2/25/19 at 7:44 pm to
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Nothing about the wire tap or pleading the 5th would lead to LSU firing Wade

Of course you'd want that.


Please explain your logic that LSU would accept him pleading the 5th when those questions are also related to NCAA violations also? Is it illegal to offer a recruit money to come to your school ? No Is it against NCAA rules ? yes
I hope you understand the difference because you guys are acting like the Feds and the NCAA are after the same objectives.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64640 posts
Posted on 2/25/19 at 7:44 pm to
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It was an agent trying to make a run at an unsigned recruit

You hope that’s all
Posted by LouisvilleKat
Member since Oct 2016
18224 posts
Posted on 2/25/19 at 7:44 pm to
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Based on Friday's report, and documents obtained therein, schools that could potentially face NCAA repercussions include: Alabama, Clemson, Creighton, Duke, Iowa State, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisville, LSU, Maryland, Michigan State, NC State, North Carolina, Notre Dame, Seton Hall, USC, Utah, Villanova, Virginia, Washington, Wichita State Texas and Xavier.
and if we actually had anything to worry about we'd be the headline not Will Wade and Miller
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 2/25/19 at 7:45 pm to
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No pleading the 5th bullshite, no that was tossed out of court.. it's gonna be fun



LSU fan just don't get it.
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