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How would you rank the SEC's Football programs Nationally
Posted on 7/24/16 at 1:47 pm
Posted on 7/24/16 at 1:47 pm
We rank them internally a lot, but if you widen the scope and look at it from a national perspective, where you rank each program?
I'd go
Top 3 - Alabama
Top 15 - Tennessee, Georgia, Florida, LSU
Top 20 - Auburn
Top 30 - Arkansas, Texas A&M
Top 40 - Ole Miss, Missouri
Top 50 - Vanderbilt
Top 75 - Mississippi State, Kentucky, South Carolina
I'd go
Top 3 - Alabama
Top 15 - Tennessee, Georgia, Florida, LSU
Top 20 - Auburn
Top 30 - Arkansas, Texas A&M
Top 40 - Ole Miss, Missouri
Top 50 - Vanderbilt
Top 75 - Mississippi State, Kentucky, South Carolina
This post was edited on 7/24/16 at 1:55 pm
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Posted on 7/24/16 at 1:49 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Are you talking this year or all time?
If all time, you know Auburn is a all time top 15 team. Don't be a gump all the time
If all time, you know Auburn is a all time top 15 team. Don't be a gump all the time
Posted on 7/24/16 at 1:50 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Looks good to me except I'd drop A&M to top 30 or 40.
Solid edit.
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Top 30 - Arkansas, Texas A&M
Solid edit.
This post was edited on 7/24/16 at 2:00 pm
Posted on 7/24/16 at 1:52 pm to LanierSpots
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Are you talking this year or all time? If all time, you know Auburn is a all time top 15 team. Don't be a gump all the time
All-time
Auburn is :
Wins - 19th
Win % - 20th
National Titles - T12th
Bowls - 16th
Conference Titles - T6 SEC, so add ND, Ohio St, Michigan, Southern Cal, Oklahoma, Nebraska, Texas, Penn State, etc just off the top of my head and that puts them at least somewhere right at around 15 or lower there too.
Not sure how saying they are between 15-20 makes me a "gump". Seems to be right in line with all of their individual rankings.
This post was edited on 7/24/16 at 1:56 pm
Posted on 7/24/16 at 1:56 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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All-time
Auburn is :
Wins - 19th
Win % - 20th
National Titles - T12th
Bowls - 16th
Conference Titles - T6 SEC, so add ND, Ohio St, Michigan, Southern Cal, Oklahoma, Nebraska, Texas just off the top of my head and that puts them at least somewhere right at around 15 or lower there too.
AP ranking - 12th
BCS ranking - 14th
This post was edited on 7/24/16 at 1:57 pm
Posted on 7/24/16 at 1:57 pm to LanierSpots
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AP ranking - 12
Ok? So that makes 2 of 5 metrics that has them between 10-15 and 3 of 5 metrics that has them between 16-20. Again, not sure how that makes me a gump.
The BCS Ranking makes up, what, a 10 year period out of 100+ years?
Posted on 7/24/16 at 1:58 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Top 3 - Alabama
Top 15 - Tennessee, Georgia, Florida, LSU
Top 20 - Auburn
Top 30 - Arkansas, Texas A&M
Top 40 - Ole Miss, Missouri
looks about right
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Top 50 - Vanderbilt
Top 75 - Mississippi State, Kentucky, South Carolina
not sure vandy is ~20 spots higher than MSU or UK
Posted on 7/24/16 at 2:00 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Ok? So that makes 2 of 5 metrics that has them between 10-15 and 3 of 5 metrics that has them between 16-20.
So what metrics are you counting? Just the ones that have us out of the top 15?
Posted on 7/24/16 at 2:00 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Alabama
Tennessee
LSU
Georgia
Florida
Auburn
Tennessee
LSU
Georgia
Florida
Auburn
Posted on 7/24/16 at 2:00 pm to WG_Dawg
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not sure vandy is ~20 spots higher than MSU or UK
Probably not, probably more like 48th and 54th and 55th. Vanderbilt did have more sustained success than State or Kentucky, but it was during the pre-1950 years.
Posted on 7/24/16 at 2:01 pm to LanierSpots
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So what metrics are you counting? Just the ones that have us out of the top 15?
Yea, I cherry picked random, obscure stat groups like : Wins, Win %, National Championships, Bowl Games and Conference Championships. Had to really work to find a few that screwed Auburn.
Come on man.
Posted on 7/24/16 at 2:02 pm to SummerOfGeorge
top 1 - texas a&m
the rest - who gives a frick
the rest - who gives a frick
Posted on 7/24/16 at 2:03 pm to WestCoastAg
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top 1 - texas a&m the rest - who gives a frick
We aren't rankings $$$ Earned to National Championships Won ratios here
Posted on 7/24/16 at 2:03 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Yea, I cherry picked random, obscure stat groups like : Wins, Win %, National Championships, Bowl Games and Conference Championships. Had to really work to find a few that screwed Auburn.
Come on man.
How would you "rank" programs all time without using the "rankings". Just a little confusing.
Posted on 7/24/16 at 2:05 pm to SummerOfGeorge
About right, but hopefully after this year we can be considered a top 25 program. That year with John L and the dismantle and rebuild that were the first two years of CBB's tenure set us back in the national eyes a little.
Tennessee is a little high in your list I think. I know it's based on past reputation, but we went to Knoxville last year and handled them pretty well, so...
ETA: Oh, and Ole Miss might be a little low as well. I think they are at least top 25, maybe close to 20. Until the NCAA gets through them at least.
Tennessee is a little high in your list I think. I know it's based on past reputation, but we went to Knoxville last year and handled them pretty well, so...
ETA: Oh, and Ole Miss might be a little low as well. I think they are at least top 25, maybe close to 20. Until the NCAA gets through them at least.
This post was edited on 7/24/16 at 2:08 pm
Posted on 7/24/16 at 2:05 pm to LanierSpots
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How would you "rank" programs all time without using the "rankings". Just a little confusing.
Well, for one, it's clearly subjective. Two, I think finishing 6th 10 years in a row should be less impressive than finishing 1st for 3 years, 5th for 2 and 15th for 5.
Again, all pretty subjective, so my personal thought is Wins and Titles are the most significant items. But everyone is different.
Posted on 7/24/16 at 2:05 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Isn't there an objective way of looking at this with wins and championships? I think LSU is in the top 10 and Bama is number one
Posted on 7/24/16 at 2:06 pm to WonderWartHawg
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Tennessee is a little high in your list I think. I know it's based on past reputation, but we went to Knoxville last year and handled them pretty well, so...
Tennessee is
9th wins
12th win %
5th bowl games
2nd SEC Championships
12th National Championships
Posted on 7/24/16 at 2:07 pm to geauxnavybeatbama
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Isn't there an objective way of looking at this with wins and championships? I think LSU is in the top 10 and Bama is number one
The subjective part is how you weight them, I guess
Posted on 7/24/16 at 2:08 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Top 3 - Alabama
Top 15 - Tennessee, Georgia, Florida, LSU
Top 20 - Auburn
Top 30 - Arkansas, Texas A&M
Top 40 - Ole Miss, Missouri
Top 50 - Vanderbilt
Top 75 - Mississippi State, Kentucky, South Carolina
I approve of your ranking, auburn right where they belong
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