re: How Would You Rank SEC Programs Historically?

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The point of this thread is a program's history, which includes the years before UF became relevant in the 80's, sorry.

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Which is why you would have to assign some sort of system to weigh the eras of college football

Age 1 = start through WW II
Age 2 = 50's - 70's as the rise of the state schools
Age 3 = 70's - 00's as the rise of ESPN
Age 4 = 10's - ?? as the emergence of the Big 4 / Big 5

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It took decades to get over the hump and get an official championship, but doormat is a little extreme. After all UF has a higher winning percentage all time than Auburn, we had to pick up some wins pre-1990 right?

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You do realize that before 1991 you had zero conference championships, right?

Auburn all time record 733-416-47 .633
Florida all time record 684-388-40 .633

all time head-to-head Auburn leads 43-38-2

Auburn using all-time record.

Bama
Tennessee
Georgia
LSU/Auburn/Florida


Doesn't matter

Go to CFB data wear house

Pick an era. I picked the past 50 years since I am I about that age. One could go back 75 or 100 years too

In the 50 yr and 75 yr range, we are ranked ahead of TAMU.

It is only when you go back 100 years that they pass us

I can see how some might rank them higher than us, but I can't, especially given the huge advantage in Head to head that we have over them.

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LSU would be #1 or #2 overall if Miles was somewhat competent

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Miles is 5-4 versus Florida, what does that say about your coaches

Just like below. Grouped teams are very close.

I-A Winning Percentage 1869-2013 (145 years)

Rank Team name Win-Pct Won Lost Tied Games
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6 Alabama 0.71387 838 323 43 1204

9 Tennessee 0.68186 804 361 53 1218

12 Louisiana State 0.64925 753 396 47 1196
13 Georgia 0.64658 767 407 54 1228

15 Auburn 0.63036 726 416 47 1189
16 Florida 0.62913 684 395 40 1119

21 Texas A&M 0.60166 701 456 48 1205
28 Arkansas 0.58988 686 471 39 1196

48 Mississippi 0.55950 636 497 35 1168
54 Missouri 0.54642 645 531 52 1228

68 South Carolina 0.51460 577 543 44 1164

76 Vanderbilt 0.50000 582 582 50 1214
80 Kentucky 0.49589 582 592 44 1218
87 Mississippi State 0.48475 521 555 39 1115

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12. Kentucky
13. Mississippi State

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You almost had me til # 2 on the list. Historically? WTF has LSU done in SEC folklore?

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As I stated, rankings are determined by the factors and weight. Who comes out 2d to 5 depends the methodology. College Football Data Warehouse's methodology ranks LSU 2d. Sorry of that hurt your feelings. I assume their ranks are unbiased, but you may certainly disagree with their methodology.

BTW, LSU has won an SEC championship in every decade of the conference's history, except two, the 1940s and the 1990s, so there is plenty of history there. And we a talking historically. Unfortunately for Ole Miss, the conference history is more than the 1960s. GT bailed in the 60s and the conference has been around for almost another 50 years, longer than GT was in the conference. You can't ignore those 50 years in ranking teams historically.

I think three teams have legitimate argument for no.2, Tennessee, UGA, and LSU based on the entire conference history. Since Florida didn't really become a power until the 1990s other than one tainted championship, I would place them at no.4, but of course that is somewhat subjective too.

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Let me know when .633 is a higher percentage than .633

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You only get to the .633 when you include ties. If you calculate winning percentage without, UF is slightly higher.