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re: How UF fell with Urban
Posted on 9/17/15 at 2:15 pm to bgator85
Posted on 9/17/15 at 2:15 pm to bgator85
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Spurrier wanted no part of a return to Fla...before Meyer took the job
It had everything to do with everything involved in coaching at Fla...ask Muschamp...it was an era when the thugs from the state of Fla migrated to UFla instead of the usual Miami and FSU because of their problems.
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Posted on 9/17/15 at 2:17 pm to LowCountryBuckeye
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The thuggery at Fla would wear on anyone.
Um, funny how the arrests went down when Urban's recruits left.
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Hell, Spurrier wanted no part in going back there
link?
This post was edited on 9/17/15 at 2:18 pm
Posted on 9/17/15 at 2:22 pm to LowCountryBuckeye
I don't care that Meyer left. He was hired to do a job and he did it well. I think he handled his departure poorly. He built this up as a family, health thing only to jump back into college football after a small break. I think it's fair to call him out on that. He doesn't have to justify it to me or any one else, but it is a fair criticism.
He's on top of the world at OSU now. Let's see if Harbaugh can bring him back down to Earth.
He's on top of the world at OSU now. Let's see if Harbaugh can bring him back down to Earth.
Posted on 9/17/15 at 2:23 pm to LowCountryBuckeye
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it was an era when the thugs from the state of Fla migrated to UFla instead of the usual Miami and FSU because of their problems.
And who was head coach during this era?
Posted on 9/17/15 at 2:26 pm to bgator85
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And who was head coach during this era?
and why was there a never a thug problem at BGSU or Utah when Meyer was there..and why are OSU players under Meyer having no thug issues?
Posted on 9/17/15 at 2:34 pm to LowCountryBuckeye
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and why was there a never a thug problem at BGSU or Utah when Meyer was there..and why are OSU players under Meyer having no thug issues?
Small sample size. No one cares about BGSU or Utah, so there arrests are hardly as publicized. Give it time at OSU. It's coming.
Posted on 9/17/15 at 2:34 pm to LowCountryBuckeye
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and why was there a never a thug problem at BGSU or Utah when Meyer was there.
He wasn't at either program long enough for there to be issues. He left both within 2 years.
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and why are OSU players under Meyer having no thug issues?
Well, he's been there 3 years, so the problems should have presented themselves by now. I would say having 4 players suspended for week one of the season would indicate some issues, not sure if I'd classify as "thug issues" though.
Also, perhaps Meyer learned from his time at UF and has cleaned up his act or has gotten better at covering for his players. I do know that the folks at Florida - where he coached for 5 years - probably have more insight on the man than do folks at an OSU where he's been for 3.
Posted on 9/17/15 at 2:42 pm to bamasgot13
the 4 players suspended for OSU's 1st game would not have been suspended by any SEC team
Posted on 9/17/15 at 2:45 pm to LowCountryBuckeye
Yeah, Meyer is recruiting such thugs now. Here's an example. BTW, Baker was committed to Florida for a short time. Outstanding young man.
Changing the way athletes speak about sexual violence
Changing the way athletes speak about sexual violence
Posted on 9/17/15 at 2:46 pm to LowCountryBuckeye
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the 4 players suspended for OSU's 1st game would not have been suspended by any SEC team
Why were they suspended and what are you using to support this assertion on your part?
Posted on 9/17/15 at 2:48 pm to bamasgot13
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Why were they suspended and what are you using to support this assertion on your part?
The rumor mill is a couple for weed and a couple for shirking academic responsibilities.
Posted on 9/17/15 at 2:49 pm to bamasgot13
skipping classes and smoking pot in the offseason...both in-house Ohio State AD rules..not NCAA, not B10..and certainly not SEC
Posted on 9/17/15 at 2:51 pm to LowCountryBuckeye
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smoking pot in the offseason
This was a huge portion of UF's arrests. Difference being it is thuggery at UF.
This post was edited on 9/17/15 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 9/17/15 at 2:52 pm to LowCountryBuckeye
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4 players suspended for OSU's 1st game would not have been suspended by any SEC team
Including a Meyer coached Florida right?
Posted on 9/17/15 at 2:53 pm to LowCountryBuckeye
Jeremy Fowler was the reported that wrote a false report about a Fla player that was later retracted. Meyer threatened to kick his sorry arse and told him he wasn't welcome at Fla practices anymore....and YOU choose to believe this reporter?..he's the whiny bitch that still has his feelings hurt and fighting back the only way he can..meyer should have just kicked his arse and made him like it.
Posted on 9/17/15 at 2:54 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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Do y'all even care about how much you look like LSU fans talking about Saban?
Did Saban destroy LSU's program on the way out the door and call them a broken program on national television (forgetting the fact that HE was the one who broke it)? No
LSU went from 9-3 in Saban's last season to 3 consecutive 11+ win seasons.
Urban left Florida a wreck. Even if Muschamp had been a mediocre coach, it would have taken 3-4 years to undo the damage...which is why he stayed the coach as long as he did.
I'm sorry, but the Saban/LSU and Urban/UF situation are not the same.
Posted on 9/17/15 at 2:55 pm to bamasgot13
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Also, perhaps Meyer learned from his time at UF and has cleaned up his act or has gotten better at covering for his players
I just think when you're at the top of the mountain you don't have to take as many chances. but, as said, 5 years from now is when stories would come out realistically
Posted on 9/17/15 at 2:56 pm to LowCountryBuckeye
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Jeremy Fowler was the reported that wrote a false report about a Fla player that was later retracted. Meyer threatened to kick his sorry arse and told him he wasn't welcome at Fla practices anymore....and YOU choose to believe this reporter?..he's the whiny bitch that still has his feelings hurt and fighting back the only way he can..meyer should have just kicked his arse and made him like it.
This is one of dozens of reports saying the same thing. People within the program including the athletic director himself has said there was a problem. Why is it so hard to believe? Doesn't mean Meyer hasn't changed, but this isn't a matter of opinion.
This post was edited on 9/17/15 at 2:57 pm
Posted on 9/17/15 at 2:57 pm to LowCountryBuckeye
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Spurrier wanted no part of a return to Fla...before Meyer took the job
You have no idea what you're talking about. Spurrier's decision had nothing to do with the players at UF. It was the snub by our athletic director that ultimately led to him winding up at USC.
Urban recruited players from all over the country. Percy was from Maryland, Hernandez was from Connecticut, etc. Yeah I guess it's just something about that florida air that attracts these kinds of players right? Nothing to do with Urban. You buckeye fans are a hoot.
Posted on 9/17/15 at 2:57 pm to KajunGator
Blaming the guy that left is the easy way out. It had a lot to do with Muschamp and terrible hires (Weis). The truth is usually somewhere in the middle and this is no exception. 
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