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re: How realistic is the idea of playing a game to a 1/4 capacity stadium?

Posted on 5/26/20 at 6:20 am to
Posted by JohnnyU
Florida
Member since Nov 2006
12350 posts
Posted on 5/26/20 at 6:20 am to
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Player and fan welfare is important not just for PR reasons but for legal reasons as well.


This is your takeaway? PR and liability?
How about the actual threat to the general health of the populace?
This is not the flu! In less than three months nearly 100,000 persons have lost their lives due to COVID. Imagine what it would have been without social distancing, shelter in place orders. Not to mention how much more devastating this would have been to the economy and the misery that would cause.
Football games and attendance have little importance in the overall context of pandemic.
Whether we like it or not, the football season and virtually every aspect of our daily lives will be dictated by COVID and the effectiveness of containment measures until effective treatment or vaccines are widely available. You can't spin it any other way.
It's not about liability or PR.
And we will crying because of ignorant, self serving statements like this poster:

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by september we'll be looking back on these types of articles and laughing and the dems will be trying to shift the narrative to trump over reacted.


No one will look at the carnage and be laughing. No one will ever claim that Trump overreacted. He will forever be known as a poor leader who sat on his fat arse and worried more about his reelection than the good of the nation.
Posted by cyarrr
Prairieville
Member since Jun 2017
3343 posts
Posted on 5/26/20 at 7:24 am to
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right now there are 87 covid cases hospitalized in georgia.


Your number is off by an order of magnitude and 1500 were reported in Georgia as late as last week.

Hospitalizations will likely be extremely low by September but will increase again when flu season starts.


Posted by walley tux
DFW
Member since May 2020
794 posts
Posted on 5/26/20 at 8:03 am to
Based on the state's tally taken at 8 p.m. each night, in the eight days between May 14 and May 22 (we don't yet have complete data for today, May 23) the 7-day moving average rose from almost 59 to nearly 114 on Wednesday, before dipping back to 87 yesterday.

LINK


you're an idiot......i get it we're all gonna die!
Posted by walley tux
DFW
Member since May 2020
794 posts
Posted on 5/26/20 at 8:08 am to
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carnage





i get it! orange man bad vote by mail good!

i didn't think you soy boi's even cared about football.

you should go tidy up that man bun!
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90554 posts
Posted on 5/26/20 at 8:13 am to
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Play in empty stadiums.


How about full stadiums and let free people make their own personal risk assessment and decisions
Posted by JohnnyU
Florida
Member since Nov 2006
12350 posts
Posted on 5/26/20 at 8:21 am to
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walley tux


Your response exposes your ignorance and indecency much like the man you worship. You're just another "deplorable" asswipe.
You should educate yourself.
This post was edited on 5/26/20 at 10:59 am
Posted by cyarrr
Prairieville
Member since Jun 2017
3343 posts
Posted on 5/26/20 at 8:34 am to
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Based on the state's tally taken at 8 p.m. each night, in the eight days between May 14 and May 22 (we don't yet have complete data for today, May 23) the 7-day moving average rose from almost 59 to nearly 114 on Wednesday, before dipping back to 87 yesterday.


That's a daily average of patient intake not current hospitalizations.

From the article you quoted "He tweeted on Tuesday when the number dipped below 1,000 to 986, a 34% drop since May 1. Again on Friday, his office sent out a release that the number of hospitalized COVID-19 patients in Georgia was at a new low, 887"

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you're an idiot......i get it we're all gonna die!


Really? that's what you took from my response?

Bottom line, playing before fans is probably wishful thinking on your part, at least at the beginning of the season.

Whether it's the correct decision who knows, but it has nothing to do with what you or I believe or want.


Posted by walley tux
DFW
Member since May 2020
794 posts
Posted on 5/26/20 at 8:42 am to
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Your response exposes your ignorance and indecency must like the man you worship. You're just another "deplorable" asswipe.
You should educate yourself.



look everybody soy boi got a bunch in his man bun!

you should probably take this to the poli board, clearly who you voted for is effecting your point of view on this "pandemic".

the fact is that over half of the deaths have been in four states in the north east none of which i live in and half those deaths have been in nursing homes.

shelter in place if you like but the rest of us are moving on.

let me guess, you thought we were "in this alone together"?











This post was edited on 5/26/20 at 8:44 am
Posted by Dawg4Life47
Beach
Member since Sep 2013
8431 posts
Posted on 5/26/20 at 8:50 am to
The stadiums will be max capacity by Sept.

At the rate of the openings in cities and functions, along with the declining mortality rate, its on.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26957 posts
Posted on 5/26/20 at 9:36 am to
Damn if this thread didn't get derailed.

All I'm asking is if it's possible logistically to keep 25,000 people away from each other in a football stadium, along with thousands more pre- and postgame.
Posted by Lemonpuppy
Mississippi
Member since May 2020
2709 posts
Posted on 5/26/20 at 9:43 am to
Can’t let them play and exclude bands. Would be a bunch of lawsuits. If you’re going to let those athletes huddle up and tackle eachother, why can’t band members stand next to eachother and play instruments?
Posted by Dawg4Life47
Beach
Member since Sep 2013
8431 posts
Posted on 5/26/20 at 9:57 am to
No, your question is dumb...we all thought it was rhetorical.
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
46462 posts
Posted on 5/26/20 at 9:58 am to
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This is your takeaway? PR and liability?

It’s not my personal takeaway but it’s exactly how amoral big businesses (including Univerisities and Athletic Programs) are looking at it.

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Football games and attendance have little importance in the overall context of pandemic.

Maybe in a global or even a national context, but regionally (particularly in the American South) football is incredibly important. There are huge economies surrounding football in the South and they are currently in jeopardy. That doesn’t mean you throw caution to the wind and pretend everything is fine but it means you invest time in trying to find a safe middle ground to allow those economies to continue, even if not at full capacity.
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
46462 posts
Posted on 5/26/20 at 10:04 am to
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Can’t let them play and exclude bands. Would be a bunch of lawsuits.

I’d be curious to see the grounds for that. Most band members aren’t on scholarship for the marching band specifically.

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If you’re going to let those athletes huddle up and tackle eachother, why can’t band members stand next to eachother and play instruments?

Most plans are calling for football teams to be sequestered into a single building with controlled access. I have no idea how that’s going to work once classes start but I know the same isn’t being suggested for marching bands.
Posted by AUlock54
Member since Dec 2016
1515 posts
Posted on 5/26/20 at 10:10 am to
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Just play with a full stadium. If you are scared stay home. The virus doesn’t effectively spread outdoors.


I don’t understand why we couldn’t just sign a waiver and know we’re at our own risk. If you’re worried about getting COVID, then simply don’t attend.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 5/26/20 at 10:14 am to
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Time to just shut it down for 2020 and look to next year




frick that shite.

By September this will be little more than a fart in the wind. We peaked in deaths a month ago.

The schools will be under immense pressure politically to set policies that are likely unnecessary, but they’ll do it to get the season in
Posted by twk
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jul 2011
2118 posts
Posted on 5/26/20 at 10:47 am to
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This is your takeaway? PR and liability?
How about the actual threat to the general health of the populace?
This is not the flu! In less than three months nearly 100,000 persons have lost their lives due to COVID. Imagine what it would have been without social distancing, shelter in place orders. Not to mention how much more devastating this would have been to the economy and the misery that would cause.
Football games and attendance have little importance in the overall context of pandemic.
Whether we like it or not, the football season and virtually every aspect of our daily lives will be dictated by COVID and the effectiveness of containment measures until effective treatment or vaccines are widely available. You can't spin it any other way.
It's not about liability or PR.
And we will crying because of ignorant, self serving statements like this poster:

You should be careful throwing around the label "ignorant."

Want to know what the world would look like without shelter in place orders? Try Sweden, or the 7 US states that never locked down. Here's a hint--not that different from the rest of the world.

Lockdowns were imposed due to a lack of knowledge. We now know a lot more about who is vulnerable, and who is not. If you don't have a pre-existing condition that makes you vulnerable, and are under 70, the danger is minimal. We can eliminate a large percentage of deaths just by protecting folks in nursing homes.

College football will be contested in the Fall by a population almost immune to serious risk. A significant part of the fan base (students) is, likewise, almost invulnerable. How we work out what to do with the rest of the folks that want to attend is a bit of a question, but you're ignoring the science if you think that there is no way we can do it with crowds in the Fall.

When you say that football games and attendance are not important, you're making a value judgment that, again, is not based on the facts. Football games are mass gatherings that involve travel. We cannot continue to ban mass gatherings, whether that's football games, church services, concerts, movies, or birthday parties, indefinitely, nor can we ban travel until there is a cure or vaccine. The cost of doing so far outweighs the risk.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 5/26/20 at 10:59 am to
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In less than three months nearly 100,000 persons have lost their lives due to COVID. Imagine what it would have been without social distancing, shelter in place orders.


IDK. Considering the shelter in place orders were solely so that hospitals did not become over ran then I’m not sure the total death toll by the time this is over would have been all that different. It’s quite possible that the number of deaths was inevitable and all we did was perhaps slow them down
Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
37299 posts
Posted on 5/26/20 at 11:45 am to
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Because I've been to a few, and I can tell you that there is absolutely ZERO management of the crowd at Alabama. 60,000-90,000 people literally sitting where they want, first come-first serve, with no management whatsoever.


Well I’m going to hazard a guess that this year no bama fans will be able to storm the field to get Saban to sign their tits. It’s unfortunate but it is what it covid is.
Posted by Leto II
Arrakis
Member since Dec 2018
21274 posts
Posted on 5/26/20 at 11:58 am to
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let free people make their own personal risk assessment and decisions

Because people are god damn idiots.
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