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re: How Much of Miami’s NIL Fund Is Drug Money?
Posted on 3/30/26 at 2:18 pm to captdalton
Posted on 3/30/26 at 2:18 pm to captdalton
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They certainly did. None of those schools were relevant until the late 70s. Between 1950 and 1975 the three teams combined for zero 10 win seasons, zero conference championships, and zero national championships.
Between 1976 and 2000, they combined for 36 10 win seasons, 25 conference championships, and 7 national championships. Florida won 8 conference championships and 1 national championship. Florida State won 9 conference championships and 2 national championships. And Miami won 8 conference championships and 4 national championships.
Maybe it wasn’t causative, but there sure was a correlation between the rise of the cocaine cowboy and Florida based college football.
The football and the drugs are all downstream from the land rush caused by air conditioning becoming affordable.
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Posted on 3/30/26 at 2:26 pm to brambo
Yes, air conditioning increased the population of Florida. But Florida was not the only state to get air conditioning. California, Texas, and Arizona saw similar rates of population growth as Florida between 1960 and 1990.
But only Florida saw the explosion in football success. So something was different.
But only Florida saw the explosion in football success. So something was different.
Posted on 3/30/26 at 2:26 pm to captdalton
quote:Generations of inbreeding has given this Gump so extra chromosomes.
Maybe it wasn’t causative, but there sure was a correlation between the rise of the cocaine cowboy and Florida based college football.
The clear correlation is between population growth and success of the Florida based programs. In the 1960s-70s the population stayed growing exponentially due to advances in Air conditioning which made a previously uninhabitable area habitable
Posted on 3/30/26 at 2:26 pm to captdalton
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wonder if the powers that be will start taking a harder look at some of these NIL deals, not as they relate to sports but from the financial side.
The only "powers that be" that care is the NCAA and all the university needs to do is get a corrupt judge to rule in their favor. Ole Miss is a prime example of this.
Posted on 3/30/26 at 2:34 pm to theCAW
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The clear correlation is between population growth and success of the Florida based programs. In the 1960s-70s the population stayed growing exponentially due to advances in Air conditioning which made a previously uninhabitable area habitable
So why did other states with similar population growth not see the same results as Florida?
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Yes, air conditioning increased the population of Florida. But Florida was not the only state to get air conditioning. California, Texas, and Arizona saw similar rates of population growth as Florida between 1960 and 1990. But only Florida saw the explosion in football success. So something was different.
Posted on 3/30/26 at 2:36 pm to stopitnow1
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The only "powers that be" that care is the NCAA
I promise you that with the amount of money involved in NIL, the IRS and federal government care a lot. They want their cut.
Posted on 3/30/26 at 2:40 pm to Cheese Grits
Or it was population boom after AC became affordable..People moved here after AC was common..because it is very, very humid in Florida.
Posted on 3/30/26 at 2:56 pm to Gatorbait2008
Like Florida; Texas, California, and Georgia ALL saw their populations more than double between 1960 and 1990.
Why did Florida football see such meteoric success in football while those other states did not if air conditioning and population growth are the answer?
Between 1976 and 2000 Florida schools won 7 national championships. After winning zero the previous 25 seasons.
By comparison, all schools combined in Texas, California, and Georgia won 3 national championships. After winning 7 the previous 25 years.
So all of those states showed dramatic population growth that coincided with air conditioning. But based on national championships the schools in those other states got much worse while Florida schools got much better. What was different?
Why did Florida football see such meteoric success in football while those other states did not if air conditioning and population growth are the answer?
Between 1976 and 2000 Florida schools won 7 national championships. After winning zero the previous 25 seasons.
By comparison, all schools combined in Texas, California, and Georgia won 3 national championships. After winning 7 the previous 25 years.
So all of those states showed dramatic population growth that coincided with air conditioning. But based on national championships the schools in those other states got much worse while Florida schools got much better. What was different?
Posted on 3/30/26 at 3:49 pm to captdalton
Trump is trying to cut Miami Drug Pipeline off.
Posted on 3/30/26 at 3:55 pm to captdalton
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Maybe it wasn’t causative, but there sure was a correlation between the rise of the cocaine cowboy and Florida based college football.
I remember you went into a Miami Burger King, ordered a Whopper + Fries + Drink, and they gave you 4 free tickets to a Miami Hurricanes game they were so bad.
Posted on 3/30/26 at 3:59 pm to captdalton
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Many argue that modern Miami was built with drug money.
It was. I was in Dade and Broward at the time.
Look at a skyline pic in about 10 year span and downtown Miami and the bank skyscrapers overnight was impressive.
Posted on 3/30/26 at 4:05 pm to brambo
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The football and the drugs are all downstream from the land rush caused by air conditioning becoming affordable.
I lived through it
Flagler started it with his railroad and establishing the divorce laws so he could ditch his first wife.
Land boom for tourist followed till the Great Depression
Rise of the "carpet joints" before World War II for illegal gambling that nobody bothered to enforce. After World War II the gambling folks went to Havanna, Cuba.
South Florida had always been a Boom / Bust place. If memory serves tho, the Federal Reserve Bank that cleared South Florida was processing more cash than many of the other Federal Reserve Banks were processing together.
Posted on 3/30/26 at 4:46 pm to captdalton
Seriously, probably more than people would think
Posted on 3/30/26 at 7:01 pm to captdalton
I would guess the academies for Football helped a ton..but Texas has some very good high school Football so not sure why they would be excluded.
Posted on 3/30/26 at 7:52 pm to Cheese Grits
Your posts are great. Starting in the late 70’s the amount of cash that flowed into Miami was insane. They literally couldn’t launder it all. So why not go spend $200,000 cash on a car, $400,000 on a boat, $2 million on this piece of property, heck I will give this running back $10,000 just so I don’t have to deal with the money.
Before the drug trade the keys were one of the main import locations of booze during prohibition. That rum had to come from somewhere.
And some have talked about population growth in Florida due to air conditioning. The people that attracted were Yankees who didn’t care about college football and whose kids couldn’t play it worth a flip. The other main source of population growth in Florida was from the soutb; Cuba, Caribbean, central/south America. Those people didn’t know what football was.
Look at (outside of QB and kicker) who made the Florida teams great. They weren’t migrants. They had been there all along. Something just made them take football seriously and then commit to Florida, FSU, or Miami.
Before the drug trade the keys were one of the main import locations of booze during prohibition. That rum had to come from somewhere.
And some have talked about population growth in Florida due to air conditioning. The people that attracted were Yankees who didn’t care about college football and whose kids couldn’t play it worth a flip. The other main source of population growth in Florida was from the soutb; Cuba, Caribbean, central/south America. Those people didn’t know what football was.
Look at (outside of QB and kicker) who made the Florida teams great. They weren’t migrants. They had been there all along. Something just made them take football seriously and then commit to Florida, FSU, or Miami.
This post was edited on 3/30/26 at 7:55 pm
Posted on 3/31/26 at 1:13 am to captdalton
Didn't Cali and Texas grow in Football success?
Posted on 3/31/26 at 1:15 am to captdalton
Didn't USCand Texas grow in Football success? They both have teams that are listed in most top five 5 all time teams(05 Texas and 04 USC)
Posted on 3/31/26 at 2:53 am to captdalton
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The other main source of population growth in Florida was from the soutb
South Florida was mostly the result of 1 man who has mostly been lost to history. He was the brains behind The Standard Oil company, tho Rockefeller is the name history remembers. If memory serves, much of his wealth was given away anonymously to build churches, schools, and infrastructure (like seeding the citrus industry in Florida with folks from Europe) and basically creating businesses for the empty space of South Florida to enter a birth as a tourist and business place where once a was basically uninhabitable save mosquitos and critters.
In the very early days of Miami Beach I had a family member who remembers it as nothing more than beaches, palm trees, mosquitoes and about 2 houses from North Beach (think Bal Harbor) to South Beach (think Joe's Stone Crab) where they rode their horse up and down that beach in their younger days. Amazing how a handful; of people could do so much then vanish to history. Flagler's wealth redistribution came with a cost, nothing could be named for him and no attention drawn to him as anonymity for the gifts was expected.
Until the 1980's I think only a single book, or maybe 2 were written about him, and were probably ignored by most everybody. The junior partner however, may have become the most written about person of that time. The biggest impact was all the European immigrants who found a home in South Florida due to Flagler's direct and indirect efforts. No Flagler, no immigrants, and the Florida citrus industry of today would never exist.
Posted on 3/31/26 at 4:08 am to captdalton
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Look at (outside of QB and kicker) who made the Florida teams great.
Place and time. In a small Indiana town, most noted for a Benedictine Abbey, came a young man who played high school ball in Louisville, then college ball at Kentucky and eventually on their staff. That assistant coaching staff may have been one of the more impressive in all of college football. That person was Howard Schnellenberger and he would put Miami football on the map.
Posted on 3/31/26 at 10:11 am to captdalton
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promise you that with the amount of money involved in NIL, the IRS and federal government care a lot. They want their cut.
Because the IRS always makes millionaires and billionaires pay taxes lol.
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