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Posted on 7/28/14 at 12:28 pm to undecided
Difference is that in basketball the final four is decided by teams playing their way in, while in football they will be chosen by a committee that will TRY to keep two teams from the same conference OUT of the final four.
This could happen. You are bringing back a very strong team. Wouldn't surprise me at all.
However...if you DON'T win (and it is VERY difficult to win one) and you guys rebuild next year, and only contend ad do not win the enxt 2-3 years, will you be ready to fire Malzahn?
That is essentially what Richt has done for us. VERY close in 2012...COULD have won last season except for the injuries...will rebuild next season and hopefully contend in 2016 and beyond. All speculation, of course....
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think this year is our year to win an NC
This could happen. You are bringing back a very strong team. Wouldn't surprise me at all.
However...if you DON'T win (and it is VERY difficult to win one) and you guys rebuild next year, and only contend ad do not win the enxt 2-3 years, will you be ready to fire Malzahn?
That is essentially what Richt has done for us. VERY close in 2012...COULD have won last season except for the injuries...will rebuild next season and hopefully contend in 2016 and beyond. All speculation, of course....
Posted on 7/28/14 at 12:28 pm to IT_Dawg
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You play a much tougher schedule this year...lose your by-far best player and your best offensive lineman. You had 7 games decided by 8 points or less... You are looking at a 8-4 year...
Auburn will finish the season ranked higher than UGA, dwi
Posted on 7/28/14 at 12:29 pm to IT_Dawg
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You play a much tougher schedule this year...lose your by-far best player and your best offensive lineman. You had 7 games decided by 8 points or less... You are looking at a 8-4 year...
Are you going to fire Gus when that happens?
You could be right...but I am one that thinks Auburn plays for the SECCG and could play in the final 4.
Posted on 7/28/14 at 12:29 pm to tylerdurden24
He may not have had the stamina or gumption that RIcht has
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This may be the understatement of the day.
I mean he made it what all of 6 years making more money than he couldve ever dreamed of and 4 of those years were with Tebow leading the team. Talking about being in the right place at the right time.
I will say he kept up the recruiting after being left a locker room full of NFL talent, hungry to win.
Was anyone ever set up as well as Urban in the SEC? FSu and Miami struggling like never before and u walk in after Ron Zook in talent rich Florida.
He can recruit, but u need way more skills than that to win in this league. U can get away with that at Ohio State but not down here.
Too much talent down here with fierce competitors as coaches that find a way to evolve and compete.
The SEC is not for the faint hearted. Sooner or later u will be tested in this league.
When the going got a little tougher, and he couldnt run the most talented team out there with the best QB? He quit. We found out what kinda coach and man urban is.
If Florida had their pick right now between Richt and Meyer? Who do they take?
He actually quit on his players and his contract. A football coach doing this.
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This may be the understatement of the day.
I mean he made it what all of 6 years making more money than he couldve ever dreamed of and 4 of those years were with Tebow leading the team. Talking about being in the right place at the right time.
I will say he kept up the recruiting after being left a locker room full of NFL talent, hungry to win.
Was anyone ever set up as well as Urban in the SEC? FSu and Miami struggling like never before and u walk in after Ron Zook in talent rich Florida.
He can recruit, but u need way more skills than that to win in this league. U can get away with that at Ohio State but not down here.
Too much talent down here with fierce competitors as coaches that find a way to evolve and compete.
The SEC is not for the faint hearted. Sooner or later u will be tested in this league.
When the going got a little tougher, and he couldnt run the most talented team out there with the best QB? He quit. We found out what kinda coach and man urban is.
If Florida had their pick right now between Richt and Meyer? Who do they take?
He actually quit on his players and his contract. A football coach doing this.
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Posted on 7/28/14 at 12:30 pm to undecided
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Auburn will finish the season ranked higher than UGA, dwi
You mad
Posted on 7/28/14 at 12:31 pm to DawgsLife
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However...if you DON'T win (and it is VERY difficult to win one) and you guys rebuild next year, and only contend ad do not win the enxt 2-3 years, will you be ready to fire Malzahn?
Ask me in 2-3 years
I'm not saying this is a logical train of thought but rather based on the current climate, most schools are in win now mode. I don't think Nick Saban can remain at Alabama for 2-3 more years and not win another NC. Fan expectations are unrealistic and I think it's going to get worse before it gets better
Posted on 7/28/14 at 12:32 pm to DawgsLife
Going to be tough no doubt. That final stretch is rough with playing in Athens and Tuscaloosa in 3 weeks.
Posted on 7/28/14 at 12:34 pm to DawgsLife
wait can someone tell me what makes Meyer unethical compared to say, Saban? Both take chances on guys from troubled backgrounds, if anything Meyer's more ethical because he doesn't just outright lie to players (let's be real here "processing is bull from a player's perspective, it screws them out of an education they and there parents were promised).
Posted on 7/28/14 at 12:35 pm to undecided
quote:Patience will grow excessively thin with many a CFB fanbase for the forseeable future.
I'm not saying this is a logical train of thought but rather based on the current climate, most schools are in win now mode. I don't think Nick Saban can remain at Alabama for 2-3 more years and not win another NC. Fan expectations are unrealistic and I think it's going to get worse before it gets better
Posted on 7/28/14 at 12:35 pm to dallasga6
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Yup... Fire him cause he hasn't won a Mythical Natty yet... ...
At most, going off his past, UGA could only really "force" retirement and not get a black eye from the situation. Richt and Mack Brown had a similar record at their two programs. However, Mack gave a little more ammo to cause what happened to him.
The other issue is the old phrase, one in the hand vs two in the bush. With Richt, you know what you are going to get and UGA administration doesnt want another UF/muschamp or even worse UT post fulmer situation. Its one thing to have a forced hand in new coach hiring, its another to cause the issue yourself.
Posted on 7/28/14 at 12:36 pm to socraticsilence
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if anything Meyer's more ethical because he doesn't just outright lie to players
Posted on 7/28/14 at 12:38 pm to socraticsilence
quote:Parents and players are promised a 1 year deal, period. If they want a better guarantee for retention with a program, then there are dozens of other schools they can sign on with - no one's forcing kids and their parents to play for mean ole Nick Saban.
wait can someone tell me what makes Meyer unethical compared to say, Saban? Both take chances on guys from troubled backgrounds, if anything Meyer's more ethical because he doesn't just outright lie to players (let's be real here "processing is bull from a player's perspective, it screws them out of an education they and there parents were promised).
Posted on 7/28/14 at 12:39 pm to socraticsilence
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wait can someone tell me what makes Meyer unethical compared to say, Saban?
Do we need to compare notes on behavior on and off the field of the two programs under both coaches? Do we need to compare conduct of players after they left the program?
Posted on 7/28/14 at 12:39 pm to undecided
Richt probably would have won a NC at UA by now. We have a knack for having coaches overachieve.
Posted on 7/28/14 at 12:41 pm to NYCAuburn
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The other issue is the old phrase, one in the hand vs two in the bush. With Richt, you know what you are going to get and UGA administration doesnt want another UF/muschamp or even worse UT post fulmer situation. Its one thing to have a forced hand in new coach hiring, its another to cause the issue yourself.
I think UGA would have a better selection of coaches than Bama or Texas. Their fan base has shown themselves to be patient and less demanding than those schools. However, fear of the unknown is a major deterrent when considering a coaching change
Posted on 7/28/14 at 12:42 pm to socraticsilence
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Both take chances on guys from troubled backgrounds, if anything Meyer's more ethical because he doesn't just outright lie to players (let's be real here "processing is bull from a player's perspective, it screws them out of an education they and there parents were promised).
When has Saban lied to a player?
Posted on 7/28/14 at 12:43 pm to undecided
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Their fan base has shown themselves to be patient and less demanding than those schools.
until you get into a situation where you just fired Richt.
quote:Moreso when you have a coach like Richt
However, fear of the unknown is a major deterrent when considering a coaching change
Posted on 7/28/14 at 12:46 pm to undecided
I think most fan bases are scared of firig a guy and then him winning the big game. Shoot, what would the Auburn fans have done if Malzahn had gone to Arkansas and he turned them around real quick? It would have gotten ugly.
We'll see. If Richt wins 10 games in the next 2-3 years he will probably stay. If not he will probably go on his own. He was close to getting fired after 2011...but when he came SO close in 2012, he bought himslef 3-4 more years.
We'll see. If Richt wins 10 games in the next 2-3 years he will probably stay. If not he will probably go on his own. He was close to getting fired after 2011...but when he came SO close in 2012, he bought himslef 3-4 more years.
Posted on 7/28/14 at 12:47 pm to NYCAuburn
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Moreso when you have a coach like Richt
Richt is an anomaly in that he has been so consistent for a number of years. I can't think of another CFB coach to compare him to. For all that LSU fans bitche about Les Miles, he has the NC titles and appearances to hold them off. Based on this thread Richt can continue as he has and have job for life.
*I'm not saying that's a bad thing either. I just find it an interesting predicament to be in
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