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re: How long until the 4 team playoff format changes to 8 teams?
Posted on 1/7/14 at 3:31 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
Posted on 1/7/14 at 3:31 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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How could you have fairly decided the two teams to pick out of Alabama, Michigan State, Stanford, Ohio State this year? All teams with identical records from "power conferences" One way or another, had we started this year, the 5th and 6th teams would have had a serious and legitimate gripe
Look at body of work:
Alabama - Lost on a ridiculous play with no time left: 11-1
Ohio State - Completely dominated by Michigan State
Michigan State - Lost to Notre Dame after some extremely questionable officiating
Stanford - Lost to a mediocre Utah team and an ok USC team
Baylor - Completely dominated by the only good team they played
The answer is Alabama and Michigan State.
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Posted on 1/7/14 at 3:31 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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How could you have fairly decided the two teams to pick out of Alabama, Michigan State, Stanford, Ohio State this year?
Idk, that's not my job. In my scenario, we'd just keep the BCS. So in that case it'd be bama and MSU making the final 4. OSU is laughable because they just lost their conf to MSU. Stanford lost 2 games. Seems like it'd be pretty cut and dry to me.
This post was edited on 1/7/14 at 3:32 pm
Posted on 1/7/14 at 7:19 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
All the bozos who want to see it expanded to get their teams in are being very short sided.
What about the times your team finishes #1 and now has to play like 3 extra games because you decided you wanted a 16 team playoff?
Your QB could blow out his knee in the first game against Akron and you'd be like 'Why the hell did we have to play Akron? We're undefeated and #1, we should have been rewarded for that'
4 is fine. If you can't manage to finish in the top 4, you ain't national champions, f'ing end of story. If you're in the SEC and outside the top 4, that means you managed to lose at least twice.
The playoff being small isn't the problem, your team losing is the problem.
What about the times your team finishes #1 and now has to play like 3 extra games because you decided you wanted a 16 team playoff?
Your QB could blow out his knee in the first game against Akron and you'd be like 'Why the hell did we have to play Akron? We're undefeated and #1, we should have been rewarded for that'
4 is fine. If you can't manage to finish in the top 4, you ain't national champions, f'ing end of story. If you're in the SEC and outside the top 4, that means you managed to lose at least twice.
The playoff being small isn't the problem, your team losing is the problem.
Posted on 1/8/14 at 12:21 am to IAmReality
I kinda like the idea of a 6 team system like the NFL conferences go through. 1 and 2 get a bye while 3 faces 6 and 4 plays 5. 1 gets the lowest seeded winner. That opens the field a bit without going too far. 1 and 2 still have incentives. Not an original idea but one that is growing on me.
No change in number of teams for at least 10. There will likely be tweaks to selection process after 2 and 5.
No change in number of teams for at least 10. There will likely be tweaks to selection process after 2 and 5.
Posted on 1/8/14 at 12:39 am to IAmReality
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you'd be like 'Why the hell did we have to play Akron? We're undefeated and #1, we should have been rewarded for that'
Are you insane, your logic is totally backwards. Being #1 and undefeated your reward is the MAC Champion, a gimme game while other have to battle fellow top 10 opponents.
Posted on 1/8/14 at 2:13 am to Riseupfromtherubble
6 team, top two get byes. Profit.
Posted on 1/8/14 at 3:56 am to bamabenny
Do I have an echo?
Posted on 1/8/14 at 4:45 am to Riseupfromtherubble
Probably the year after Alabama finishes fifth.
Posted on 1/8/14 at 5:29 am to BrerTiger
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Not soon enough.
Posted on 1/8/14 at 6:16 am to CGSC Lobotomy
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The second the SEC gets 2 schools in...and they both play each other for the title.
Actually i think its the exact opposite. The first time the SEC doesnt get 2 teams into the final 4, the powers that be will be pushing for it. I cant imagine the bitch fest that would have happened this year, assuming Ohio State and Baylor won out, from Alabama and ESPN about leaving Alabama out? I just cant imagine it.
Posted on 1/8/14 at 6:21 am to IAmReality
Here's the problem as I see it.
OSU and FSU should in most years with this format (especially FSU) have basically an automatic bid into the playoffs.
They really need to do and RPI or if I were FSU, I'd lobby to not play UF every year, and fill that spot with more teams like GA Southern (SWIDT).
We use to sell recruits on the notion that to be the best, play the best in the SEC. Now it seems like FSU should sell come here, play a couple of decent games and get an automatic bid every year. That's concerning from a scheduling point of view.
OSU and FSU should in most years with this format (especially FSU) have basically an automatic bid into the playoffs.
They really need to do and RPI or if I were FSU, I'd lobby to not play UF every year, and fill that spot with more teams like GA Southern (SWIDT).
We use to sell recruits on the notion that to be the best, play the best in the SEC. Now it seems like FSU should sell come here, play a couple of decent games and get an automatic bid every year. That's concerning from a scheduling point of view.
Posted on 1/8/14 at 6:37 am to roadGator
way over
Posted on 1/8/14 at 8:18 am to Riseupfromtherubble
If two or more SEC teams make it in to the four team playoff and the SEC ends up having both teams in the championship game, the rest of the country will start clamorring for a bigger field.
Posted on 1/8/14 at 8:28 am to ColtonH
I think 4 if just fine, honestly. You start to bring in the 5th, 6th and other teams the regular season starts to lose it's value. Think of the Iron Bowl, even with the 4 team format Bama probably still gets in having lost that game.
It's the SEC championship loser who is gonna get screwed. You're gonna have years like 2012 where the number one seed from the SEC is pretty clear, but the two clamoring for that 4th spot is a a little more dicey. So, probably a 11-1 UF team gets in, UGA coming off a close SECCG loss is the one left out.
It's the SEC championship loser who is gonna get screwed. You're gonna have years like 2012 where the number one seed from the SEC is pretty clear, but the two clamoring for that 4th spot is a a little more dicey. So, probably a 11-1 UF team gets in, UGA coming off a close SECCG loss is the one left out.
This post was edited on 1/8/14 at 8:29 am
Posted on 1/8/14 at 8:31 am to WG_Dawg
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Ugh. The NFL you can go 9-7 and be on equal footing as someone who went 16-0.
That's what makes cfb the greatest sport in the world, the regular season is far, far more precious than any other. An 8 or 16 or whatever team playoff will just see teams have to put it in cruise control and don't lose 3 games and you could probably be in.
They should jsut leave the BCS and take the top 4 into a playoff. boom.
Comparing the NFL to college football is a moot point. There are no divisions you can win to get an automatic playoff birth in college football
Posted on 1/8/14 at 8:35 am to Riseupfromtherubble
The moment a huge school from one of the big five conferences is left out.
SEC, Big X, Big XII, ACC, PAC-12.
Gonna be a nightmare, hopefully the leagues everyone plays in take care of them before it comes to a five way tie or even a two way tie between teams.
Let's say the ACC, X and PAC-12 produce undefeated teams and the SEC and Big XII produce 1 loss teams. Gonna be damn hard to say which team deserves to go.
SEC, Big X, Big XII, ACC, PAC-12.
Gonna be a nightmare, hopefully the leagues everyone plays in take care of them before it comes to a five way tie or even a two way tie between teams.
Let's say the ACC, X and PAC-12 produce undefeated teams and the SEC and Big XII produce 1 loss teams. Gonna be damn hard to say which team deserves to go.
Posted on 1/8/14 at 8:36 am to BrerTiger
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Even if that means Bama gets a shitload more mulligans. Because it also means a two loss LSU team has a much better chance of winning the natty
You coonasses have figured out that you got an almost automatic arse whipping with Alabama on the schedule, so you need a little cushion....and who said that all coonasses were stupid! 
Posted on 1/8/14 at 8:40 am to Riseupfromtherubble
I think we need to try a number of things before expanding, although I don't know what those are. But any problems that arise should be remedied before we think about it.
If we expand to 8 teams, shitty programs like ND are going to get in every year.
If we expand to 8 teams, shitty programs like ND are going to get in every year.
Posted on 1/8/14 at 8:40 am to Riseupfromtherubble
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Just my .02 I feel like 8 team is the best way to do it. Plus we get more good football. Every other level of football, high school, D2, D3, NFL has 8 or more teams, I'm not sure why D1 has to be done so differently. The NFL is usually the only level of competition in which a lower seed wins the whole thing on a semi regular basis. You don;t see it in HS or D2, so I say move it to 8 and let them play
When you have a system that works why re-invent the wheel, I agree with 8.
How do we get hurried along sooner than 16 yrs, as in the current agreement?
This post was edited on 1/8/14 at 8:42 am
Posted on 1/8/14 at 8:44 am to WG_Dawg
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Devalues the reg season too much. If after 13 games you have finished 8th, you don't deserve to be a national champion. Sorry.
I think we should reduce the number of regular season games and get rid of the crap gimme games, make each game meaningful and shorten the season so the 8 game playoff would be possible
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