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re: How knowledgeable is the rest of the SEC on the Border War?

Posted on 9/2/25 at 3:33 pm to
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
32725 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 3:33 pm to
Are yall finally gonna fill your 60k stadium this weekend?
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 9/2/25 at 3:49 pm to
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The what?


It's called US history, grab a book (Bleeding Kansas) on the Missouri/Kansass Border War and get a better understanding of where the Civil War truly started.....5-6 years before Fort Sumter.

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Civil war raged along the Kansas-Missouri border for nearly a decade in the mid-nineteenth century. The struggle over the fate of slavery in Kansas Territory erupted into partisan bloodshed in 1856. The rising number of fugitive slaves and tensions fueled by vengeful irregular violence swept across the border and threatened to push the leaders of Missouri and Kansas toward open warfare. The start of the national Civil War in 1861 brought even greater devastation, wrought less by the scattered battles between Union and Confederate armies than the widespread guerrilla war that raged through 1865, destroying several communities and displacing thousands of families.


After the CSA formally surrendered to the Union in April of 1865 some in MO continued the resistance against the Union with guerrilla/bushwhacking tactics.



Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 9/2/25 at 3:51 pm to
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Team Quantrill's Raiders checking in.


Posted by Jrv2damac
KS (mountain time)
Member since Mar 2004
71758 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 3:52 pm to
An intense rivalry that is overshadowed by the fact that both football programs have never been consistently good, therefore the big games on a national scale between the two are rare and therefore the series as a whole never garnered much national attention.

Only original Big 8 members understand it. Even the fanbases from the Big 12 south outside of the Oklahoma schools didn’t get it.


This post was edited on 9/2/25 at 3:55 pm
Posted by ChapelHillSooner
Chapel Hill
Member since Dec 2020
984 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 3:54 pm to
I remember some pretty good basketball games over the years.

Football? I knew they played yearly. That's about it.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
53512 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 3:58 pm to
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Are yall finally gonna fill your 60k stadium this weekend?


I think Mizzou sold out every home game in 2024. If I recall they have a 14 or 15 game sellout streak going.
Posted by Tiger_Claw
Little Rock, AR
Member since Nov 2013
6910 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 4:00 pm to
"I always heard there were three kinds of suns in kansas, sunshine, sunflowers, and sons-of-bitches" - Josey Wales
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
53512 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 4:08 pm to
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"I always heard there were three kinds of suns in kansas, sunshine, sunflowers, and sons-of-bitches" - Josey Wales


The war is still ongoing in an economic sense between KCMO and Johnson/Wyandotte Co Kansas.

If the city of KC and the state of MO doesn't get their collective shite together the state of MO is going to lose the KC Royals and the KC Chiefs to Kansass. I think the Royals likely end up across the border and the Chiefs may follow.

Posted by LSUShock
Kansas
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 9/2/25 at 4:13 pm to
I was in Allen Fieldhouse for this. A great sporting moment.

T Rob Block End of Regulation
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
19311 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 4:16 pm to
The border of what? The north and the south? We lost obviously because you made it into the SEC.
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
38171 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 4:18 pm to
Tell us about it and give us as much info as you possibly can on THIS thread.

If fact, keep it all here so we can refer to it a lot since it will remain on first page.

We’d love to know.
This post was edited on 9/2/25 at 4:19 pm
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
53512 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 4:18 pm to
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The border of what? The north and the south? We lost obviously because you made it into the SEC.


The MO Bushwhackers kept fighting when y'all folded the tents.
Posted by Soonerd78
Member since Sep 2024
2338 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 4:20 pm to
If I remember right KU Missouri has been played like 120 years in a row or something to that extent one of the longest rivalries in college football . Either that or times played is one of the top 5-10 games played in college football I forget .
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
10368 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 4:24 pm to
It was real life or death, right?
Posted by MtVernon
Member since Jul 2024
10096 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 4:26 pm to
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This is a Big 12 thing isn't it?


Barely.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
53512 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 4:26 pm to
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Tell us about it and give us as much info as you possibly can on THIS thread.






The burning ^^^^ of Lawrence KS by MO Bushwhackers and Confederate loyalists.




The burning ^^^^ of Oceola MO by red legged Kansass Jayhawkers.

Many people died in both raids.
This post was edited on 9/2/25 at 4:30 pm
Posted by InCaliForNow
Member since Mar 2014
541 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 4:36 pm to
I’m aware, and I’m all for traditional rivalries continuing and/or resuming

Same with Bedlam and LSU playing Tulane

Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
53512 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 4:43 pm to
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If I remember right KU Missouri has been played like 120 years in a row or something to that extent one of the longest rivalries in college football . Either that or times played is one of the top 5-10 games played in college football I forget .


KU didn't want to play MU in any sports after MU left for the SEC. The ku football team was in shambles, their basketball program was still top notch but they were completely butt hurt that MU left the conference. If I recall their excuse was MU is no longer in the Big 12 but I think ku played Colorado and Nebraska in various sports after both teams left the Big 12 conference. I will say the ku football team is better today than it's been in the past 15 years so at least there is a chance for a good game. I think Mizzou likely wins but ku has a knack for getting up for a MU vs ku football game.
Posted by BK785
Member since Feb 2013
3674 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 4:46 pm to
I live in Lawrence, so I know it pretty well.
Posted by Rico Manning
NOLA’s Secret Uncle
Member since Sep 2025
222 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 5:04 pm to
The funniest thing about the Missouri-Kansas rivalry is they’re both named after Union militia forces from their towns.

What’s even more bizarre is Mizzou fans larp as Confederates by rallying around a character known for guerrilla raids on Union camps in Kansas, focusing on his attack of Lawrence, KS.
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