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re: How is LSU the bad guy in this?

Posted on 10/14/16 at 12:54 pm to
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 10/14/16 at 12:54 pm to
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That article is from the same day of the one you posted.

Oct 6


holt shite, you really are this dumb.

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“My first conversation with (Florida Athletic Director) Jeremy (Foley) was on Tuesday. He was confident they were going to be able to play the game. We had a conference call on Wednesday. They were very confident that they could play the game. They thought, maybe, they would have to move the time to later,” Alleva said. “Then, today, it all felt apart. From the very beginning, it just all fell apart.”



the point i've repeatedly made is that Alleva attempted to reschedule the game for Sunday or Monday beginning on October 4th. This is when Foley thought the game would still be played, even though he was alone in that line of thinking.

Not once did Joe Alleva say he would be willing to play UF in Gainesville in replace of a home game. That's an asinine option, considering UF football was the only sport that didn't play it's games and every other major Florida school that was in contact with Matthew still played. And USC played on Sunday.
Posted by Othello
the Neptonian Steel Mines
Member since Aug 2013
22973 posts
Posted on 10/14/16 at 12:56 pm to
The point is you're an idiot and I'm not gonna waste time responding to you anymore. Because we know Alleva has no reason to lie about the Nov. 19.

So seriously, permanently from now on ignore me because you're a count and a loser and I won't respond to you anymore.

Never in my life has some pussy come into another thread to bleed on me about what I said in another thread. You really are a special kind of bitch.
This post was edited on 10/14/16 at 12:57 pm
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
42198 posts
Posted on 10/14/16 at 12:56 pm to
We can do without the name calling. Not really interested in your opinion when you start out like that.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70994 posts
Posted on 10/14/16 at 12:57 pm to
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But logistically to compare it to Katrina is apples and oranges in my opinion.


Rita and katrina were heavier storms than Matthew iirc. Everyone except Foley thought the game could be played on Monday.

Not to mention he didn't have to accept. It's not like LSU and UF were gonna play in the parking lot of the stadium or surrounding city had damage. It was simply a plan that was never apparently really given consideration.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
44339 posts
Posted on 10/14/16 at 12:57 pm to
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When did the Katrina hit? I believe it was a Monday. To play a game a week later is much different than when a hurricane comes through and area on Friday and trying to play 2 or 3 days later


Hurricane Rita made landfall West of Baton Rouge on Saturday, September 24th. LSU played UT on Monday, September 26th. This was after the state was already reeling from Katrina.

Try again.
This post was edited on 10/14/16 at 12:59 pm
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70994 posts
Posted on 10/14/16 at 12:58 pm to
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The point is you're an idiot and I'm not gonna waste time responding to you anymore. Because we know Alleva has no reason to lie about the Nov. 19.

So seriously, permanently from now on ignore me because you're a count and a loser and I won't respond to you anymore.

Never in my life has some pussy come into another thread to bleed on me about what I said in another thread.




I feel bad at this point anyways. It really does feel like I'm debating with a high school kid.
Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
14938 posts
Posted on 10/14/16 at 1:01 pm to
Are LSU fans still arguing that UF was scared to play LSU or have we gotten past that nonsense argument, at this point?
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 10/14/16 at 1:03 pm to
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But logistically to compare it to Katrina is apples and oranges in my opinion.

Fair enough.

Which is why more people compare it to Rita when the LSU/Tennessee game was moved to Monday night after the storm had made landfall the previous Saturday morning.

Why didn't Foley agree to reschedule the game for Monday night in Gainesville and make the final decision on Saturday morning?

Why didn't Florida have ANY contingency plans? Why wouldn't Foley cooperate in making a contingency plan?

Why was Foley acting like a petulant child the week BEFORE the storm?

Why all the focus on what happened AFTER the storm?
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70994 posts
Posted on 10/14/16 at 1:05 pm to
The optics of why Foley mismanaged this can be debated for as long as anyone likes. The point that remains constant is that LSU attempted to be cooperative in a manner where neither team loses a home game in 2016. That, for whatever reason, was shut down.

It's even more damning at this point considering so many other games were played in Florida, and even Gainesville, I believe.

It's also more damning because LSU hosted UT in 2005 2 days after the second hurricane in 1 month hit Louisiana. The first hurricane was considered one of the worst natural disasters in recorded American history.

Foley has no one to blame but himself for having to play in BR on November 19th, and I am glad Alleva finally pulled his dick out and laid it on the table and said "enough is enough; we tried."
This post was edited on 10/14/16 at 1:07 pm
Posted by BleedPurpleGold
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2005
18937 posts
Posted on 10/14/16 at 1:06 pm to
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refused to be amenable during negotiations


Oh the absolute irony of making this claim.

Y'all can't be this thick.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
44339 posts
Posted on 10/14/16 at 1:06 pm to
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Are LSU fans still arguing that UF was scared to play LSU or have we gotten past that nonsense argument, at this point?


The fact is Foley played Sankey and got the game postponed, thinking it would be recheduled in Gainesville for later in the season. Alleva then turned around and pushed Sankey around refusing to give up a home game and forced UF to accept the bid to play in BR this year, and Gainesville the next two, if they wanted the game played.

If the SECR could manage to stop trying to troll everyone all the time, we could have a discussion about the bigger issue:

How much trouble the SEC is in having Sankey, who was pecker slapped by 2 AD's in less than a week, in charge of this conference going forward.
Posted by Othello
the Neptonian Steel Mines
Member since Aug 2013
22973 posts
Posted on 10/14/16 at 1:08 pm to
Well name the time and place and let's do this thing.

YOu're a fake internet tough guy and when someone calls you out on what a bitch you are, you want nothing to do with it.
This post was edited on 10/14/16 at 1:10 pm
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70994 posts
Posted on 10/14/16 at 1:10 pm to
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“We made this decision to play the game in Baton Rouge,” Foley said in a statement. “The conference office asked us to find a solution in working with LSU, yet LSU was never a true partner in our discussions. The Southeastern Conference offered some other solutions and the LSU administration made it clear that they were unwilling to consider other reasonable options.”



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“First of all, us here in Louisiana all understand how devastating a hurricane can be,” he said. “We’re talking about a football in a stadium. Safety has got to be the No. 1 issue. From the very beginning, I brought up safety and what happens if the hurricane becomes real bad. They (Florida) was very confident on Tuesday and Wednesday we were going to play the game. ‘We’re going to play the game and it’s not going be a problem.’

“Then yesterday, from the early morning, it fell apart. They said we couldn’t play the game. That’s the way it transpired. It’s as simple as that. LSU made every effort to play the game from offering for them to come here to offering to go there, having our young men get up very early Sunday morning to fly to Florida and play the game then fly home. My only point here: I have a lot of respect for Florida, for the (SEC) commissioner. My point is that LSU tried everything to get the game in. We would have done anything to get the game in … anything.”
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
42198 posts
Posted on 10/14/16 at 1:11 pm to
You guys were just hit with a huge hurricane right before that and I think you needed to play the game to have some normalcy brought back to your way of life. I remember that game being very important to the community. Again I think every natural disaster situation is different in timing and scope and in terms of what has or has not preceded it.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70994 posts
Posted on 10/14/16 at 1:11 pm to


thanks for the new signature
This post was edited on 10/14/16 at 1:13 pm
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 10/14/16 at 1:13 pm to
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We can do without the name calling

You said you weren't trolling, and I was merely pointing out what I thought was trolling.
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lack of empathy from...the entirety of the LSU community.

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LSU seemed to not care at all about Florida

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zero spirit of cooperation

Come on, none of that is true and is only there to incite LSU fans.

LSU cared enough to recommend to Foley that he had a contingency plan in place, why didn't Foley care about UF's football players enough to have a plan not to play in Gainesville the day the storm hit? That's irresponsible on HIS part, and you want to blame LSU people for being heartless? Come on.

I'll pose one more question in a civil manner in hopes you may answer it, if even for yourself.

Why wouldn't Foley cooperate with LSU in the week leading up to the storm to have a contingency plan in place?
Posted by BleedPurpleGold
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2005
18937 posts
Posted on 10/14/16 at 1:13 pm to
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Well name the time and place and let's do this thing.


And then:

quote:

YOu're a fake internet tough guy




I mean, the script writes itself.
Posted by Othello
the Neptonian Steel Mines
Member since Aug 2013
22973 posts
Posted on 10/14/16 at 1:14 pm to
Awesome show what a punk you are to the whole rant. I normally don't want to kick anyone's arse on the internet but you're a special kind of bitch and you always have been and I'm just saying either meet me or shut the frick up bitch.

Make sure you put in there how you ran to another thread like a five year old girl and bitched about what I said, which was not wrong.
This post was edited on 10/14/16 at 1:16 pm
Posted by BleedPurpleGold
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2005
18937 posts
Posted on 10/14/16 at 1:15 pm to
MOAR.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
44339 posts
Posted on 10/14/16 at 1:15 pm to
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You guys were just hit with a huge hurricane right before that and I think you needed to play the game to have some normalcy brought back to your way of life. I remember that game being very important to the community. Again I think every natural disaster situation is different in timing and scope and in terms of what has or has not preceded it.


How many times are you going to pivot on this?

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To play a game a week later is much different than when a hurricane comes through and area on Friday and trying to play 2 or 3 days later


I just gave you a perfect example of how to handle this and now it's, "well your community NEEDED to play that game 2 days after the hurricane hit"?

You're spinning yourself in circles.
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