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re: How has Oklahoma been so good?

Posted on 10/11/24 at 10:06 am to
Posted by PerrillouxToTexas
Member since Sep 2022
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Posted on 10/11/24 at 10:06 am to
SMU money going to kill OU recruiting in Dallas.
Posted by HorninHouston
Member since Sep 2024
1130 posts
Posted on 10/11/24 at 10:07 am to
Few things.
1. Mack Brown turned into a gaping vagina when he played stoops. he used to tell the fans and the team BEFORE the game that if they lost to oklahoma it wasn't the end of the season. Stoops scared him to death.
2. Horrible head coach hires after Mack left.

it's really that simple. Not to mention the future HOF nfl QBs in our back yard that Mack didn't even recruit. Brees, Mahomes, and others. Some say andrew luck but I'm not sure he would have come here if Mack had gone after him.

I really hated that man. We need to rename that stadium to Vince Young stadium imo.
This post was edited on 10/11/24 at 10:09 am
Posted by Curious Moe
George's brother
Member since Oct 2024
528 posts
Posted on 10/11/24 at 10:08 am to
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That was because Sumlin didn't know how to manage a QB controversy.
quote:

How the frick are you a fan of a team and don't even know?

Learn fool...

That video just backed up everything he said about not properly managing a QB controversy.
Posted by OKinTX21
Member since Sep 2024
344 posts
Posted on 10/11/24 at 10:09 am to
Spoken like someone that has zero clue as to what they’re talking about.

Texas is quite a sad story. All the money in the world but repeatedly gets big boyed by the “shitty” school up north.

Posted by Projectpat
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2011
10847 posts
Posted on 10/11/24 at 10:10 am to
This thread is incredible. Bama fan makes a underhanded jab at Texas via complimenting OU, and the Texas fans are still posting about A&M
Posted by PerrillouxToTexas
Member since Sep 2022
7116 posts
Posted on 10/11/24 at 10:12 am to
He’s replying to an Aggie you fricking idiot
Posted by ChapelHillSooner
Chapel Hill
Member since Dec 2020
886 posts
Posted on 10/11/24 at 10:12 am to
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Unlikely... NIL + SEC is not a good mix for them....

They are a poverty program and their exposure to Texas is going to be greatly reduced not getting 2-3 games in Texas every year.

They won't fall to Nebraska level depths but they will struggle to stay at Texas A&M levels.


This seems like more wishful thinking than anything. I've been hearing these types of predictions from UTx fans for decades. It is always one reason or another that would lead to OU's downfall. Hell, I even believed it in the mid/late '90s.

Our recent recruiting tells a very different story. With Riley we brought in tons of offensive talent but mediocre defensive talent. Recruiting has become far more balanced.

We will see but I suspect that OU could be a prime destination for Big 12 players (especially those in the old Big 8 footprint) to move up to SEC.

Posted by Gimme Vaughn
Okmulgee
Member since Jul 2021
1222 posts
Posted on 10/11/24 at 10:13 am to
For the past several years, we have had quality QB play here. We benefitted from being in the big 12 being one of only 2 big fish in the conference. The other schools would be up and down, but we were usually competing for a conference title. With the way the offenses were in this stretch, our defense was more finesse than physical. That was why we would struggle with now fellow SEC conference opponents in the big games.
Posted by OKinTX21
Member since Sep 2024
344 posts
Posted on 10/11/24 at 10:14 am to
Last I checked the money is still there. Not like Texas or A&M, but enough to make your money irrelevant.

Coaching isn’t there? You’re aware Venables has coached in 8 national championship games, right?
Posted by PerrillouxToTexas
Member since Sep 2022
7116 posts
Posted on 10/11/24 at 10:15 am to
Venables is a great defensive coach when he knows what play the offense is going to run. Bad program builder though.
Posted by BigBro
Member since Jul 2021
17307 posts
Posted on 10/11/24 at 10:18 am to
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How has Oklahoma been so good?

This is like asking “Why is Alabama so good?”

Oklahoma doesn’t have 200 rings like Alabama, but those 2 programs are more alike than anyone else in the SEC.

Oklahoma is a better program than Texas.

No logical Texas fan would argue otherwise.

QB play is a big piece of that.. when Texas has a better QB, we have won some games..

We are 8-12 vs OU in the last 20 games.

Those wins
VY (1-1)
Colt
Colt
Colt (3-1)
Sam (1-4)
Ewers

and we got lucky in 2 other games.. I think little McCoy got one..

Better QB wins a lot more at all levels.

OU is usually higher ranked than Texas.

i’m confused.. what’s the question again?

Oh.. we have all time scoreboard despite all that .. 119 games
Posted by OKinTX21
Member since Sep 2024
344 posts
Posted on 10/11/24 at 10:24 am to
Interesting because objectively he’s done a pretty great job. Kind of sounds like you’re projecting what you wish to be the case but isn’t reality.

Posted by TejasHorn
High Plains Driftin'
Member since Mar 2007
11587 posts
Posted on 10/11/24 at 10:36 am to
In the 50s, post-dust bowl, they decided football would be the state’s identity and they would pour a bunch of oil money into it.

And OU is only an hour away from Texas and a couple of hours away from DFW. There are more OU alumni in DFW than the state of OK.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
19867 posts
Posted on 10/11/24 at 10:45 am to
They played in the big 12. The bottom have of the SEC would be competitive in the big 12.

OU had to play a down Texas every year to be a top 10 program.

TCU and Baylor had 1? 22 good years in the last 20 something. And those were the next best programs behind OU
Posted by MtVernon
Member since Jul 2024
6459 posts
Posted on 10/11/24 at 10:48 am to
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All the money in the world but repeatedly gets big boyed by the “shitty” school up north.



All the money in the world didn't matter until now.
Posted by swinetime
Member since Apr 2013
5247 posts
Posted on 10/11/24 at 10:48 am to
Only have to play one or two decent teams a year
Posted by OKinTX21
Member since Sep 2024
344 posts
Posted on 10/11/24 at 11:06 am to
Why haven’t the Yankees won a World Series in 15 years? Why haven’t the cowboys won in 30?

Money matters up until a certain point. Having the GDP of Senegal to deploy for 17 year football players is great, but really doesn’t make a big difference because you’re not going to outbid someone for a random 4 star by 3-4x. Most kids will still base where they go on getting paid and which program they believe is going to get them into the league. I’m not worried at all about OU doing well with recruits in both of those areas.
Posted by ChapelHillSooner
Chapel Hill
Member since Dec 2020
886 posts
Posted on 10/11/24 at 11:09 am to
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They played in the big 12. The bottom have of the SEC would be competitive in the big 12.

OU had to play a down Texas every year to be a top 10 program.

TCU and Baylor had 1? 22 good years in the last 20 something. And those were the next best programs behind OU


That is simply not true. TCU and Baylor are not the third best programs in the Big 12. KSU and OSU are generally better. (Heck, OSU sucks this year and they beat Arkansas.) That is not to mention that for the majority of this century we had A&M, Nebraska, Missouri, and Colorado in our conference. In the late '90s and early '00s those were some damn good Nebraska teams. (You should know as they pounded Manning's arse pretty good not to mention their destruction of Florida.)

And why are we 2-1 this century against Tennessee?

That is not to mention we are 3-1 against Alabama this century.

2002 - Alabama was SEC west champs if not ineligible due to probation.
2013 - Beat Alabama by 14. The same Alabama was a kick six away from playing for the national title.

What did you do against those 'Bama teams?

2002 - Lost 34-14
2013 - Lost 45-10

You are like Arkansas fans filling your heads with how great you would be if not in the SEC yet nothing in actual games played fits this narrative.
Posted by ChapelHillSooner
Chapel Hill
Member since Dec 2020
886 posts
Posted on 10/11/24 at 11:11 am to
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Only have to play one or two decent teams a year


How did you do against a pretty bad Big 12 team this year?
Posted by Boomer00
Member since Sep 2015
3558 posts
Posted on 10/11/24 at 11:14 am to
Norman is close to Dallas, and OU actually has a lot of money, the oil money alone is ridiculous. Only A&M, UGA, and Texas eclipse the potential money OU can throw around in the sec. OU could easily out spend Alabama dollar vs dollar when comparing alumni.
This post was edited on 10/11/24 at 11:18 am
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