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Posted on 11/5/13 at 4:03 pm to Govt Tide
Alabama does have a good law school, don't take the questioning as disparagement overall. The point is it went from 40ish to 20ish in just a few years, an astonishing move by any measure.
Posted on 11/5/13 at 4:04 pm to Pettifogger
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Even assuming Alabama did take over, that doesn't mean Auburn is on the decline unless you view the world solely through that prism, which I'm sure you do. Nonetheless, Auburn is improving, as is Alabama. Acceptance rates speak more to a popularity problem for Auburn than an academic performance problem. Look to the stats for incoming classes, which probably don't show much disparity.
I would say that, when a state/regional school that prides itself on its engineering school, begins to have lesser quality engineering students than its rival, they are declining.
Posted on 11/5/13 at 4:06 pm to coachcrisp
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I agree and apoligize for calling you an idiot. The topic of this thread just pissed me off.
I remember folks calling Coach Bryant too old and Coach Stallings too conservative when everything didn't go exactly as they wanted.
No worries...and thanks for your half century of support to the greatest program in college sports. Our fan base may be a little volatile but Alabama has the greatest fans, program, and coach in all of college sports.
The Aubies posting are just jealous becuase we are beating them on the field, in the classroom, and in the boardroom. Good times.
Posted on 11/5/13 at 4:08 pm to Pettifogger
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USNWR is quantitative in the same way the AP poll is. Subjective data placed into quantitative form for the purpose of distribution.
Of course, there are true quantitative factors in the USNWR, but if we pretend the USNWR rankings are a study and look to the objective of this "study," they're almost all akin to qualitative research.
The question -- and I'm not debating your basic premise -- you inevitably have to address, then, is whether any school, including Vanderbilt, deserves its lofty ranking. Would you argue that Yale and Vandy and Harvard are only rated so highly in those rankings by virtue of a remarkable coincidence? That the fact that others think highly of them is just a bizarre confluence of fate wherein a qualitative analysis just happened to match the quantitative ones? It's a dangerous argument you make there, as any lawyer (I assume you are one) would have to concede.
Posted on 11/5/13 at 4:08 pm to Upperaltiger06
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How does Saban view the Bama fanbase? He probalby does't think about the fan base much or care. He sees the fans as mostly a recruiting tool so that he probably likes, but he also probably dislikes all the potential outside distraction they cause. Every single fan base has lunatics and they scream loudest on the internet and talk radio. The extremist fringe, they represent like <1% of the fan base and seem to be the only people you ever hear from.
Surely you admit that bama has a >1% lunatic/fringe base....
Yes it may be more than 1% but don't act like it's not right in line with everybody's fans. Have you read this board after LSU loses? Every fanbase is hard to please and if you're taking Clay Travis as gospel then you should take Gay Telese as well when he says what he says about Auburn fans. Clay admits he absolutely LOATHES everything about Bama so he would not be too objective. If you consider him objective then we will consider the insults Gay throws at Auburn as credible as well. THat would be the undesireable, can't get in anywhere else, hick kids go Auburn whereas the states nobility goes to Alabama.
How does Saban view the Bama fanbase? He probalby does't think about the fan base much or care. He sees the fans as mostly a recruiting tool so that he probably likes, but he also probably dislikes all the potential outside distraction they cause. Every single fan base has lunatics and they scream loudest on the internet and talk radio. The extremist fringe, they represent like <1% of the fan base and seem to be the only people you ever hear from.
Surely you admit that bama has a >1% lunatic/fringe base....
Yes it may be more than 1% but don't act like it's not right in line with everybody's fans. Have you read this board after LSU loses? Every fanbase is hard to please and if you're taking Clay Travis as gospel then you should take Gay Telese as well when he says what he says about Auburn fans. Clay admits he absolutely LOATHES everything about Bama so he would not be too objective. If you consider him objective then we will consider the insults Gay throws at Auburn as credible as well. THat would be the undesireable, can't get in anywhere else, hick kids go Auburn whereas the states nobility goes to Alabama.
Posted on 11/5/13 at 4:08 pm to randomways
Well, and it is unfair to Alabama that all things Alabama have something of a non-academic reputation nationally. Auburn too, for that matter. I think some other states have been successful in moving past that, Texas clearly, and arguably Georgia, so I think Alabama (entire state) may be able to shake some of that.
There is nothing wrong with going to school without a high clerking percentage, obviously, it is just one of the few measures we can really look at in assessing good vs. elite law schools, national vs. regional schools, etc. One thing interesting with Alabama is that it doesn't have a big market to use (Birmingham excepted), so that is another hesitancy I have in placing it among the country's truly elite schools. Some schools have that built in advantage, SMU for example, so it wouldn't surprise me as much to see a school like that fly up the rankings in a short period.
There is nothing wrong with going to school without a high clerking percentage, obviously, it is just one of the few measures we can really look at in assessing good vs. elite law schools, national vs. regional schools, etc. One thing interesting with Alabama is that it doesn't have a big market to use (Birmingham excepted), so that is another hesitancy I have in placing it among the country's truly elite schools. Some schools have that built in advantage, SMU for example, so it wouldn't surprise me as much to see a school like that fly up the rankings in a short period.
Posted on 11/5/13 at 4:08 pm to BamaNixon
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Bama grads are better looking and much
Sure, if you have an aversion to teeth and hygiene in general.
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probably because they post on message boards from the bottom of a dumpster that they call their "office."
Yeah, my office on Brickell avenue.
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Also, the fact is that you're fat.
8-10% BF year round w/ the same waist size I was in HS (have never gone over a 32). Also a bench of 300+lbs as well (usually 305-310).
Sorry dude but you lose.
Posted on 11/5/13 at 4:11 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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Tiger n Miami AU83
My wife just asked me if I would get your phone number for her.
Posted on 11/5/13 at 4:16 pm to randomways
It's an interesting subject no doubt. Initially, I'd be tempted to say that Vandy or Yale has far better faculty. There is likely truth to that, but your same question applies to that consideration, in that a professor gets automatic credibility for association with those institutions.
To be fair, I rarely encounter folks at that level of school who lack the pedigree to match their placement, but it does happen, I'm sure.
And all of this is different than talking about the quality of education you get at any of these schools. I think the biggest advantage to Yale over Alabama or any other good but less prestigious school is the sheer intellect disparity of the respective student bodies.
To be honest, I'm not that enchanted with academia that I think intelligence or intellectualism is always worthwhile in itself, but being around people who are exceedingly competent is humbling and beneficial in many instances. You'll get this to a lesser degree at any top grad school, but I do think you're more likely to encounter that in large amounts at the elite institutions. Of course, Alabama may provide more practical experiences, exposure to more well-rounded students, more ethically sound students, etc., all of which have value.
To be fair, I rarely encounter folks at that level of school who lack the pedigree to match their placement, but it does happen, I'm sure.
And all of this is different than talking about the quality of education you get at any of these schools. I think the biggest advantage to Yale over Alabama or any other good but less prestigious school is the sheer intellect disparity of the respective student bodies.
To be honest, I'm not that enchanted with academia that I think intelligence or intellectualism is always worthwhile in itself, but being around people who are exceedingly competent is humbling and beneficial in many instances. You'll get this to a lesser degree at any top grad school, but I do think you're more likely to encounter that in large amounts at the elite institutions. Of course, Alabama may provide more practical experiences, exposure to more well-rounded students, more ethically sound students, etc., all of which have value.
Posted on 11/5/13 at 4:21 pm to Upperaltiger06
Saban doesn't give a shite about any fanbase.
Posted on 11/5/13 at 4:23 pm to MrAUTigers
Posted on 11/5/13 at 4:32 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
I assume this is as true as the rest of the nonsense you've posted in this thread, tubby.
Posted on 11/5/13 at 4:37 pm to BamaNixon
It is true, but believe what you want. Doesn't matter to me.
Posted on 11/5/13 at 4:39 pm to Upperaltiger06
What the he** difference would it make to anyone from the barn?
Posted on 11/5/13 at 4:52 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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It is true, but believe what you want. Doesn't matter to me.
Obviously, which is why you made up a bunch of stuff to sound remotely impressive on the internet! Because it doesn't matter to you so much, tons-o'-fun!
Posted on 11/5/13 at 4:52 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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8-10% BF year round w/ the same waist size I was in HS (have never gone over a 32). Also a bench of 300+lbs as well (usually 305-310).
Any good at BF3?
Posted on 11/5/13 at 6:24 pm to Upperaltiger06
Who's article? You gotta be kidding, right?
Posted on 11/5/13 at 6:28 pm to KYbamaboy
quote:don't worry. Our fragile dispositions can take you saying hell
he**
Posted on 11/5/13 at 6:32 pm to Upperaltiger06
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